Pride in primary school

Final time for those who are struggling

He reacted to someone discussing what is in another's head at a private time

He dismissed the wormhole as am I

He and I respect all people full stop .You may want to try it sometime.

Remove your post or have it reported because it is clearly states he disrespectful of women and girls. It implies he laughed at that, I clearly stated he did not. That he laughed at them being threatened or disrespected.

That is a horrible and inaccurate statement of a sixteen year old. Take some responsibility for your actions. Inaccurate quoting of others posting is covered in the guidelines.

The post is a lie of my response the poster has a choice retract and apologise or it is reported and I encourage anyone else to do the same.

It is disgusting to let the insinuation of my son response. I won't let a lie between left of what I posted.

What lies? I've posted numerous links to information about autogynephilia. This condition exists.

I was just pointing out that your children have been taught some waffly nonsense about trans people being born in the wrong body, when the reality is much more complex and some of it is quite abusive towards women and children.

I can easily imagine a 16-year-old boy laughing on being told that some men get aroused at the thought of themselves as women. But this isn't some sort of fiction. It's real. Read the trans widows threads. And if schools are going to teach children about 'what trans is' the fact that this is a sexual fetish for many men should be included.

But you also said that your 16-year-old, even though he laughed at the thought of these men, said that they should be respected. I disagree. I don't owe respect to anyone who uses other non-consenting people as their sexual props.

Let us know which school it is and we can make are own minds up. Or even just area so you don’t out yourself.

I am answering about Pride in our school. I have explained the approach our school has taken to the trans question. I have explained how teens in our school have navigated practical challenges.

Having a severely physically disabled child in my family who has been in pretty much constant distress since they were born I am respectfully not going to answer your question because it really is a question I can't allow my head to go to, I hope you can understand .

I clearly have stated we work on under standing when a person says they are trans they believe their body is the wrong sex. That is as clear as I can make my opinion.

I'm sorry I can't see any posts explaining about whether disabled children can be born in the wrong body - could you point me to them please?

@Marblessolveeverything
Again with the lies. Your post is inaccurate, I am requesting it removed or ot will be reported.
If you do that you'll ruin the thread for future scrapers because it will have holes in it.

I have clearly stated opinion several times. Please refer to my previous numerous posts.

Again with the lies. Your post is inaccurate, I am requesting it removed or ot will be reported.

I clearly stated he referred to the statement referencing arousal. And the fact he wasn't familiar with the language of the second part.

Your insisting about a sixteen year old reaction as requested is actually as concerning as the scare tactics applied on these forum. And clearly shows the bullying nature .

I'm in Wales,our education system is buggered too.

Last year my kids school had a 'diversity day' - but they were flying the 'progress' flag.

When questioned, INTO (Irish National Teachers Organisation!) had sent them the flag (they don't send flags for any other group I note)!

I calmly and carefully explained my concerns to the head, and it hasn't made a re-appearance this year.

Our school is already inclusive and open, with people from all over, with different abilities, families of all shapes and sizes. There is very little bullying (it's a small school, we know all the kids, we know who gets up to what). The sex ed is appropriate, and we get to view all the materials.

Providing a progress flag to fly was absolutely an insidious attempt to get background support without actually explaining what you're supporting - straight out of the playbook. Quietly get stuff in before people realise what it is they've opened the door to.

Don't think I'm going to get an answer to my question...

We don't generally have months (black history month is an exception) we usually have days and often they are ignored by most of the population.

I have no problem with children learning some families have two dads or two mums.

I do have a problem with children being told they can change sex or that if they like particular toys they are actually a boy or a girl.

Sorry here are the little aths record https://lansw.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/State-Records-June-2024.pdf

Do you have race time results that bear that up? My own observations are boys are faster from the early years. This article seems to agree.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19910817/#:~:text=Boys%20run%20faster%20than%20girls,the%20age%20of%2015%20years.

here are the little athletics records for nsw, Australia. I have skimmed the 7 & 8yos and for every distance the boys record is faster, and this is amongst runners. Take an average cohort and you have the gender influence where most boys run more and so the average boy is faster, by dint of having trained more, so this gap would be more noticeable at a primary school.

i am gobsmacked at ‘gender neutral’ athletics!! Ie the world is for boys and men. I’d be furious.

If all they're taught is that trans means someone who would like to have been born in an opposite sex body, I'd dispute that they've actually been taught what it is.

Until recently it was taboo to mention any fetish was ever involved in any cases of men becoming transgender.

I don't think that's completely true. Up until a few years ago when transsexual and transvestite and every other flavour of trans were merged under the trans umbrella, it was widely acknowledged that transvestism was a fetish.

But you're right that that understanding was silenced for a while, but is now being discussed again.

It makes me mad that we are being brainwashed into thinking it is not a fetish. In my experience for most men, it certainly is! My mum worked for The Samaritans in the 90s and it was part of the training! They had so many men who would get off on talking to women about their crossdressing. They wanted the women to be shocked. Same thing in one of my previous jobs in a hospital where it was well-known. The difference was the women were allowed to say no to being props in their fantasies. Now we are expected to participate!

Amazingly when you speak to teens they have solutions and don't have the problems that are constantly on here.
You really think teen boys have more of an insight on this than women with a lifetime of experience of male violence and male sexuality? You must have had a very sheltered life.

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boredm · Today 23:23

I don't really believe this that it's a fetish in general

I don’t know about in general or not, but everything is changing exponentially because of the internet.

Some teen boys are also being influenced in this direction by ultra sexualised images of females in the graphics of their online gaming, at the sensitive age just as they are sexually maturing, to the extent they start to imagine they are these girls themselves. There was a thread about it, perhaps someone will remember which.

There is also the influence of Sissy porn, where some men want to be in the position of the vulnerable submissive woman to the dominant man they are watching. That is influencing some to become trans. Then they make trans sissy porn too.

There are a few boys who feel they are trans, who may be potentially gay but perhaps within an unaccepting homophobic setting, and or, autistic, abused, or traumatised, who feel they are more like women. This is the category many people imagine as being what all transwomen are.

There is also a different category of men, who fall into another route in feeling they want to be women, in middle age even, through the feeling of arousal thinking of themselves as women. See the thread about Trans widows.

Some AGP men like not only women’s clothes but also their spaces as props. Some post pictures of themselves in women’s typical places. I saw one of a man in a lingerie department for example, or it might be a ladies’.

Many transwomen though live respectable enough lives.

Until recently it was taboo to mention any fetish was ever involved in any cases of men becoming transgender.

Most likely there
are all sorts of driving forces. Trans is not a single phenomenon.

Girls, have all sorts of reasons of their own given what happens to them; but also being autistic, having experienced abuse or trauma, or possibly having a lesbian orientation which seems unacceptable, or being affected by social contagion, may play a part in their dysphoria. Many women on MN recall the unease of their teenage years, or that they were a tomboy, and feel sure that if they’d been born now they’d have bitten the lure even though they are happy as they are now ( not regretting they didn’t get the chance).

@OldCrone they learnt what I have already said which is in the Irish education system. No more no less.

Too late, well that was fucked up

Yep, that is why I said ‘learn about’ not ‘Google’!

@Marblessolveeverything
the pp asked was he aroused by xyz that was the response given. I further clarified his experience of a practical issue addressed by teens.

I think you've misunderstood. Did you think that people were asking if your son was aroused by imagining himself as a woman? Nobody was asking that. The PP wasn't asking if your son was an autogynephile. We were asking if your children had been taught that over 70% of late transitioning heterosexual males were AGP, and what AGP is.

AGP males make up a large proportion of trans people. They are the ones who cause the problems in society. You can't just ignore them and pretend they don't exist.

I want to look it up but I don't think I should lol