Female friends still holds hands & similar here.

It should be noted that the countries that are more relaxed about female and esp male friends being physically affectionate are often v homophobic (Middle Eastern countries, Russia, in some ways Italy). Probs bc they don't want men to stop being affectionate bc oc fear of being thought gay, so gay is made taboo and therefore it makes it look unlikely that 2 affectionate male friends are gay.

So this shouldn't be idealised. It's good these cultures value platonic affection but the overall mentality isn't good

There’s something strange going on…

This is yet another old thread that’s resurfaced.

🤔

What a ridiculous comment! What hetro materials are appropriate for a 5 year? Hetro norms are forced down all children’s throats from birth. I guarantee you and you significant other aren’t talking about putting a penis in a vagina to your 5 year old so why would you think that they would be talking about LGBTQ+ sex to 5 year olds? I think teaching children to support everyone equally with no judgment is a great thing whether that be sexuality, race, disability or anything that is not the typical “white privilege norms”. I think if you have an issue with your children learning about the world and acceptance it says a great deal about you as a person and sadly your parenting style. Let’s just hope your kids live up to your expectations but sadly I feel they won’t.

I don’t have an issue with LGB awareness in schools- I’d like to see more gay couples in kids books and tv shows (like Mr Crab and Nigel in Hey Duggee or the (I believe) lesbian couple in Balamory (sure, they might just be co workers, but they’re not))
Trans is far harder as there really isn’t a definition that everyone agrees on. Like others I dislike the “born in the wrong body” concept as it veers too close to everyone having a soul, which I cannot accept and don’t want to be a “fact”. Once it was ok to simply say some people were unhappy with the sex/gender they were and wanted to be the opposite. Which is a sympathetic take, not lacking in compassion- but there’s plenty of people in the trans community would have an issue with it.
i don’t think kids- even little kids should not be aware of trans people, I just don’t know how you find a definition that makes sense when there’s so many different interpretations even within its own community.

My school does black History Month and most of our inclusion/diversity initiatives focus on ethnicity/culture because we are a very racially mixed school- we have families from all over the world so it makes sense to give the kids an opportunity to bring something of their own culture to school to educate.

But I would DEARLY love more celebration/awareness of SEN and other disabilities as the number of children in school with disabilities is rising and many many families have people with disabilities so it feels like this is something that needs more representation, they exist and they shouldn’t be ignored.

Last week was Learning Disabilities Week, I hope at least some schools looked at it.

July, not "Judy". Don't know where that came from.

Do they use the terms 'cervix havers', 'pregnant people', 'people with cervical cancer' or 'menstruators'? Excuse me for being very dubious about how women, womens rights and womens issues are referred to in this day and age. Especially when it's by a school that grooms innocent vulnerable young children with (LGB)TQPA+++ cult ideology.

The monopoly that gender (and race) has on diversity is inherently ‘un-diverse’. The fayre and extra training sessions sounds ridiculously ott and I would imagine the money is coming out of pta/school funds? In an era where so many send kids are being failed, this school is likely no exception, I would question the integrity of such a decision. Why the heck do primary school kids need this literally forced upon them? It’s also likely despite the tiny percentage, T will dominate the stage. I know of several primary school kids who are coming out as at trans and non binary and then becoming outraged when they are misgendered in public - seriously, what are we setting our kids up for, when this part of who we are is literally everywhere? It’s laughable when schools are now starting to teach resilience - the two actively compete against each other. I am of the LGB community, yet I have never had the urge to bang on my drum about it, it’s such a small part of who I am.

^ this

My parents had a friend, their grandchild came home from school thinking he was gay because he didn't like girls and spent every play time with boys..

The month straight after pride, Judy, is Disability month. But do we have a 'Disability week' in schools? Talking about how classmates have ASD, some have ADHD, and children in wheelchairs, and it's important not to bully? NO! Do corporations and businesses decorate their shopfronts for Disability Month? NO! Because there is still a stigma and taboo about talking about disabilities, and it's not something pretty to celebrate nor does it give these businesses cheap brownie points.

It's disgusting how little attention people with disabilities get.

Corporations and schools don't give a flying fuck about Pride (or disabilities) in reality. It's all just being seen to be virtuous, to get more business through the door. The double standards are really disgusting.

@VashtaNerada You are misinformed there. Boys advantage is obvious well before puberty (though all you need to do is attend a primary school sports day and the boys always have better finishing times): womenssportspolicy.org/pre-puberty-male-female-children-show-marked-differences-in-sport-performance/

Not a reply to just you but in general, I really hate the term 'straight', as it implies being gay is 'bent' or 'crooked'. I just say hetero. Or heterosexual.

Q until the last 10 years, stood for Questioning. Never 'que*r'.

He will attend the march and participate in family events.

Does he even have a choice?

Sorry but that sounds too much like grooming to me, it sounds far too heavy for young children, too much and too cult-like. I would be deeply concerned if that was my child's school. There are all kinds of safeguarding red flags in that.

I would have supported it when it was purely the LGB. But extras have regressed gay rights and now it is more like a cult grooming victims.

You don't get to throw your weight around here and bully posters. You may be used to it on reddit or whichever mens rights forums you go on, but you don't get to be a bully here. You don't tell us what to say.

Most of these kids have a patent, uncle , aunty, grandparents, friends all from the gay community. It's absolutely got and proper that they are understood and accepted

Agree with you OP. There's a huge difference between Year R and Year 6 in primary school, I wouldn't really want very little children discussing such adult topics such as any type of sexuality which is what will end up happening. It's just not appropriate and that used to be common sense.

Also, Pride is so political and controversial now. I'd put it akin to supporting a political party or religion these days because of the TQ allyship thing. I'd rather children made up their own minds, like any other belief system.

Spot on

OP your thread is in the Critic!

https://thecritic.co.uk/lactose-intolerance/

100% agree. The LGB lobby, as it was until 2015, never asked for any rights the rest of society hasn't always taken for granted. Nothing they wanted ever infringed one iota on the rights of others. Section 28 was a travesty. It's an insult to those who fought for gay rights that this is inaccurately and disingenuously being brought into the recent TQ lobbying.

Your last paragraph says all that needs to be said about the normalisation of the 'Q'. This, lest we forget, is the lobby group who regard the word 'safeguarding' as a dogwhistle. They're now in plain sight, shouting to the world loudly and clearly who they are. What possible excuse can there be for not believing them?

Or for bloody flags everywhere - banks, building sites, all along regent street, tv, apps, cosmetics… even on packs of cat treats.

Yep. That includes the red ones.

THIS. We see it.

Wow, the monitors are heavy tonight. Kind of bizarre, I didn't say anything that hasn't been said here 1000 times.

wonder if PIE hasn't been waiting in the wings all these years.

Of course they have been. Paedophiles have not gone away.