Lia Thomas update ...

AFAIK the NCAA has its own rule book so competitions aren’t held under WA rules - which is why Thomas could compete in the women’s events.

For BUCS I’m pretty sure you have to be a member of a British Swimming club or take out a British Swimming student membership to be able to enter.

Yep, and it's even more effective in this case because his surname is a male name.

It's so petty but it amuses me that the pronoun issue can be swerved by using just last names

You’re spot on.

Poor William, not being allowed to cheat.

I also read elsewhere that the university competitions have different rules which is why he could swim their competitions even though he wasn't registered with the national body.. It's different here isn't it? Any BUCS entry would still require registration to a home nation?

WA didn’t have to ‘win’ the case because Thomas didn’t have the right to bring it in the first place, not being classified as an elite athlete under US Swimming rules.

I don’t know if Thomas was ever even a member of US Swimming - it was reported in Feb 2022 that he wasn’t.

It’s important to note that USA Swimming clearly states the policy is not applicable to non-USA Swimming athlete members. According to CEO Tim Hinchey, Thomas is not a member of USA Swimming.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-publishes-athlete-transgender-policy/

Ah, it was “she” all over the Today programme (it was early, and I was mainly asleep, but I am sure it was”she” )

@PriOn1 .. There is no 'Olympic Rule'..
The Olympic rules prioritise inclusion over fairness and put the onus on the individual sports to set the rules.. https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-releases-framework-on-fairness-inclusion-and-non-discrimination-on-the-basis-of-gender-identity-and-sex-variationsThis policy was criticised here.. by the International Federation of Sports Medicine. https://bmjopensem.bmj.com/content/8/1/e001273Athletics, Swimming and cycling are among the sports who have set the eligibility criteria for the female category as not having gone through male puberty after the age of 12.

The World Aquatics rules are clearly set out here..
https://resources.fina.org/fina/document/2023/03/27/dbc3381c-91e9-4ea4-a743-84c8b06debef/Policy-on-Eligibility-for-the-Men-s-and-Women-s-Competiition-Categrories-Version-on-2023.03.24.pdf

I wondered this too, I hope the case wasn't won purely because he was no longer a member of USA Swimming.

As someone with a dd in competitive swimming hoo fucking rayyyyy

There's not a single she/her in this morning's BBC report, which is unusual. Has had A legal case dismissed. Lots of use of Thomas.

BBC world service used female pronouns in the reporting which is confusing to many listeners...

Now the graun and the BBC need to use that picture of thomas on the podium absolutely dwarfing the second and third place winners, ha! I assume Ingle doesn't get to choose photos.

Yep, I’ve read it. I note his Twitter is still locked.

women who have never gone through any part of male puberty

Shakes head that this ridiculous statement needs to be made

Unfortunately I doubt that as the new sports editor is well very pro trans inclusion in women's sports. There's a current thread about him

@Hoardasurass Maybe the adults are taking over again? I do hope so.

@SabrinaThwaite when the BBC 1st reported on lia's case they quoted lia calling liaself a transgender female and went on to state that transgender females were banned from swimming in the female events. I put in a complaint pointing out that transgender females are trans men not trans women who are transgender males and that their article was misrepresenting the rules in a way that was harmful to trans men by making them wrongfully believe that they were banned from swimming in female competitions. To my surprise they changed the article removing all references to transgender females except in the direct quote from lia and put the actual rules in the article instead of lia's take on them.
I don't know how many others complained about the article but it originally read like a puff piece on how mean the WA were being to poor lia and that no-one had even fact checked it whilst the updated version was much more neutral so I'm wondering if it's a case of once bitten twice shy when it comes to reporting about lia

so maybe it is possible to keep a good man down. either that or LT isn't good.

Interesting that BBC Sport has carefully not used any pronouns for Thomas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/swimming/articles/c4nn20w0x0zo

Incredible isn't it. God forbid you tell the truth!

And Sean has once again pissed off Emily Bridges mum by being ‘transphobic’, so it’s a double win.

What are the Olympic rules now? Thomas was such a perfect case that he’d have led the world to that mountaintop and anyone who still was not aware of the travesty that’s occurring under the false banner of “inclusivity” would have been blasted wide open.

We need a male to dominate in a popular sport. Pretty sure the scandal would create huge waves.