Lia Thomas update ...

Another one at it:
Trans-Identifying Male Sweeps Women’s Events At U.S. Masters Swim National Championships

Any drug cheat would have had their records wiped. I see no difference.

so they should!

Thanks for the update. I watch with interest.

Good.

Do we think they will?

“Trump administration orders UPenn to erase trans swimmer’s records, apologize to female athletes”

I'm really upset by this harsh decision. I was looking forward to seeing Lia triumph at the Olympics. Lia’s fragile grace, elegance and sheer ability were wondrous to behold, a true water nymph amongst the mere mortal women flailing around in the pool.

Must be a hell of an endorphin rush to be celebrated like that, to have your wants pandered to. Even the people standing saying 'no', you just watch them have to swallow it, retreat, even (perhaps especially) their tears are sweet, they're impotent against you. No wonder you get so invested in your legend.

Has Thomas really had....surgery?

Yeah makes sense. I personally think its to do with easy access to every type of porn and fetish at the touch of a button and internet chat sites promoting every fetish you can think of. The middle aged tech blokes were the early adopters because they had the tech skills to access that when it was much more underground and you had to search it out, technically. I worry about young boys now when its all so easy to get access to every kind of fetish and opinion and find yourself in a bubble echo chamber online where people are telling you that AGP and sissy culture is normal and the answer to your (understandable in some cases) issues with traditional male roles or toxic masculinity.

I wonder if, because of the internet and trans acceptance in the media, we are just hearing about it more?

The middle age blokes who arent shy about waving their fetish about had the fetish at 20, but hid it until middle age when they lost their inhibitions?

Acceptance has either allowed to young to be more blatant or accelerated their fetish?

murasaki · 12/06/2024 23:14

Mrs Bridges really needs to give up. We see you and him.

Yes, Zachilly's mammy only seems to have one paragraph and boy! Does she post it often!

😁

Seriously though, we expext it now of certain middle aged blokes. But why does a 19/20 y old have a sex dungeon and be into castrating himself whilst simultaneously waving his penis around in female changing rooms. Its perverse. Must be related to modern porn exposure I feel. Normalises things that arent actualy normal or healthy.

I read a while ago that some of the female athletes are suing the NCAA because of males like Thomas being allowed to compete and share their changing rooms. Does anyone know when that case will be heard and how likely it will be to succeed?

What the hell happenned to Will Thomas at university? He's apparently removed his testicles now.

Team-mate of transgender swimmer Lia Thomas demands an apology https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-13529499/Transgender-swimmer-Lia-Thomas-former-team-mate-demands-apology-forced-undress-18-times-week-American-lost-legal-battle-compete-womens-events-Olympics.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

The biggest outcome is that women and girls are left feeling that they matter less than men, they do not get their fair share of access, support and encouragement. They feel angry, hurt and confused.

10 years ago, sporting organisations were starting to really focus on the factors that encouraged and supported women.. these efforts have been significantly impacted by the focus on the language used in policies, the focus on trans inclusion, but mostly hampered by fear of mentioning the word girl or women for fear of being called transphobic, being questioned, being derailed by theoretical discussions while girls and women are ignored.

⬆This, a million times.

Sharron: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arcIhJJd5Jg&pp=ygUOc2hhcnJvbiBkYXZpZXM%3D

She’s also been talking about the daft rules for Olympic commentators (not being allowed to say ‘biological male’) on the Talk TV/GB News circuit this week too.

She’s posted and retweeted about it on X.

The World Aquatics guidelines relateod to World Ramkings and World Records. Each organisation is permitted to set their own rules but have to abide by World Aquatics rules for qualifiying events.

It becomes a bit ridiculous when organisations say for National League events these are the rules but local events / non competitive / below age X .. etc others rules may apply... even Seb Coe. Head of International Athletics said he will protect the female athletics category at elite level but 'would die in a ditch' to defend the right of a trans person to play grassroots sports in the category in which they identify.

Even the Sports Councils of England, Scotland and Wales have hidden the declarations that female category is based on biology deep within a website called 'moving towards inclusion' and then within the 'transgender policy'.

It results in apparently fair competition at a certain level.. lots of media coverage questioning the rules ... lots of loopholes, ambiguity and confusion.

The biggest outcome is that women and girls are left feeling that they matter less than men, they do not get their fair share of access, support and encouragement. They feel angry, hurt and confused.

10 years ago, sporting organisations were starting to really focus on the factors that encouraged and supported women.. these efforts have been significantly impacted by the focus on the language used in policies, the focus on trans inclusion, but mostly hampered by fear of mentioning the word girl or women for fear of being called transphobic, being questioned, being derailed by theoretical discussions while girls and women are ignored.

All policies should all state first:
Eligibility for Participation by Sex category: Principle of fundamental right to fairness and equality of the sexes.

Women: Biological Females XX Chromosomes No exceptions
Other: All other
No ambiguity, no discussion.

Secondary to this should be an inclusion policy: sport is for all, everyone should be made welcome, measures to include whatever your identity.. etc etc

That is a concern, but it seems likely that physically transitioning as a child might have a detrimental effect on sporting performance, given the side effects of puberty blockers.

Doesn’t mean there aren’t countries that prioritize medals over competitors health who aren’t eyeing it up and doing the sums…

women who have never gone through any part of male puberty

Does this wording sow the seed that boys should trasnition pre puberty, and if they do then they can compete in womens sports?

I perefer 'biological women' but I'm sure thats not allowed 🤔

Having searched the US Swimming website, there is a Lia Kathryn Thomas listed as a member on the west coast, but unattached, and with all listed times prior to March 2019, and all in men’s events.