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Keep Prisons Single Sex Wind Down

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KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 11/06/2024 10:45

Hi Everyone,

Thanks again for all your past support and continued words of encouragement. It really means a lot to me and the rest of the KPSS team.

We will cease operating on 30th June. Which leaves the rest of the month to get as much work done as possible. We will also be asking you to take action, not just now but on an ongoing basis.

Our reports based on our research remain as relevant today as they did when we first published them. We always take a safeguarding first position. This means that our work often raises important points that no other group does.
Our hope is that you will continue to use these to hold prospective MPs, the newly elected government & parliamentarians, the police and other organisations to account.

We will be tweeting this out over the next couple of weeks, and I will be posting here on Mumsnet too, beginning with our body of work on policing.

We are beginning with our Manifesto for Policing, which we jointly produced with We Are Fair Cop.

Policing is in thrall to gender identity ideology & no force has escaped capture.
We see this in data collection on victims & suspects of crime, communication with the public, forces' allegiance to social activist groups, arresting people for their lawfully expressed views, searching protocols.

Our Manifesto for Policing calls for a return to effective and fair policing:

  • Policing with neutrality and without fear or favour
  • Forces and officers display no allegiance to any one group
  • Policing is devoid of political, cultural or social activism
  • Policing decisions are based on evidence not ideology
  • Services and practices are developed and managed in order to best meet the operational needs of policing and the criminal justice system

The Manifesto is available on our website. Use it when talking to those who want your vote.

We have posted details for every police force nationally on Twitter. You can search using #ManifestoForPolicing.

Manifesto is available here:

https://kpssinfo.org/manifesto-for-police-and-crime-commissioners-pdf/

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Fenlandia · 24/04/2025 09:53

Echoing others to say thank you for your hard work KPSS. I hope you keep your website and Substack up for posterity and to showcase the amazing work that was done. I would happily donate to cover hosting costs.

Slothtoes · 24/04/2025 06:35

Thank you for all the hard work and sorry to learn of how some groups or people have behaved that’s unacceptable.
OP your points about the impossibility to change legal sex and that concept being a misnomer in context of state responses to adult gender identity issues (with a clue to support your point in the name GRA.,.it’s not to SRA) are really fascinating. I think I have started to understand but will read more.

Where does that leave us now with the April 2025 Supreme Court judgment on the Equality Act 2010 and what chances for any future campaign to repeal the GRA which seems to be so poorly understood it’s virtually impossible to implement without errors that disadvantage women in dangerous ways. It shouldn’t be able to hang about creating problems for decades like this.

OP your perspective and ability to express complex and nuanced concepts very clearly are very valuable and needed in this movement so I do hope you won’t be going too far away from it.

Bosky · 24/04/2025 05:11

I want a 😢reaction option 😢

Bosky · 30/07/2024 00:41

Omlettes · 29/07/2024 06:17

"Reading about the way KPSS, and Kate in particular, has been treated by some unnamed individuals and organisations is upsetting. " ?
This is distressing, what happened?
I've been off twitter.

See this post:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5094418-keep-prisons-single-sex-wind-down?reply=136377204

Omlettes · 29/07/2024 06:17

Bosky · 29/07/2024 04:20

Late to the party here but MANY THANKS to Kate and the KPSS Team for everything you have done.

My thanks to Kate personally for her support with issues to do with Prisons and with organising Prison Protests.

Reading about the way KPSS, and Kate in particular, has been treated by some unnamed individuals and organisations is upsetting.

I know that Kate/KPSS is telling the truth about having influenced policy changes at Governmental level and it is shocking that she could have been spoken to so disrespectfully.

Kate is such an excellent, clear communicator and I very much hope that she will be called on and have more time for interviews in future.

I am not very keen on Andrew Gold as an interviewer but I can put up with him for the guests who he has on.

'Trans Women' Murderers Are INFILTRATING Women's Prisons - Dr. Kate Coleman
9 May 2024

I only came across this thread because I saw something on Twitter/X that I had a question about, was about to tag @/NoXYinXXprisons and then remembered I had seen something about KPSS shutting up shop. I wondered if Kate was on there using a different account so went to the @/NoXYinXXprisons to see if anything was mentioned. No - but I saw the link to this thread.

I know other GC organisations have done work on Prisons and have knowledge of how Government works but the thing is that they are organisations. In my experience, they do not usually respond to queries from random TERFs tagging them on Twitter/X and they are anyway generic organisations, not approachable individuals with the in-depth knowledge that Kate has.

Maybe I'll try tagging Kate on Mumsnet instead when I have got a query 🤷‍♀️

Many thanks again Kate for all your work and achievements xx

"Reading about the way KPSS, and Kate in particular, has been treated by some unnamed individuals and organisations is upsetting. " ?
This is distressing, what happened?
I've been off twitter.

Omlettes · 29/07/2024 06:15

Also late to the party, but you have all been absolute stars.
I've followed your work for years and
I feel quite weepy to see you go.
Bless you and thank you all x

Bosky · 29/07/2024 04:20

Late to the party here but MANY THANKS to Kate and the KPSS Team for everything you have done.

My thanks to Kate personally for her support with issues to do with Prisons and with organising Prison Protests.

Reading about the way KPSS, and Kate in particular, has been treated by some unnamed individuals and organisations is upsetting.

I know that Kate/KPSS is telling the truth about having influenced policy changes at Governmental level and it is shocking that she could have been spoken to so disrespectfully.

Kate is such an excellent, clear communicator and I very much hope that she will be called on and have more time for interviews in future.

I am not very keen on Andrew Gold as an interviewer but I can put up with him for the guests who he has on.

'Trans Women' Murderers Are INFILTRATING Women's Prisons - Dr. Kate Coleman
9 May 2024

I only came across this thread because I saw something on Twitter/X that I had a question about, was about to tag @/NoXYinXXprisons and then remembered I had seen something about KPSS shutting up shop. I wondered if Kate was on there using a different account so went to the @/NoXYinXXprisons to see if anything was mentioned. No - but I saw the link to this thread.

I know other GC organisations have done work on Prisons and have knowledge of how Government works but the thing is that they are organisations. In my experience, they do not usually respond to queries from random TERFs tagging them on Twitter/X and they are anyway generic organisations, not approachable individuals with the in-depth knowledge that Kate has.

Maybe I'll try tagging Kate on Mumsnet instead when I have got a query 🤷‍♀️

Many thanks again Kate for all your work and achievements xx

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 01/07/2024 08:55

Thank you for the work you have done and for prioritising women and children’s safety over political expediency

SisterWendyBuckett · 01/07/2024 08:42

Thank you for all the amazing work you've done and the incredible legacy you've created. Courage and tenacity on behalf of a truly vulnerable group 💪🏼

Helleofabore · 01/07/2024 06:12

I am saddened to hear that your work had been made so much harder. Thank you for all your hard work.

Garlickest · 01/07/2024 02:15

Wow, you're amazing! Thanks so much for all this. I've bookmarked the thread and will read it ALL - and the links - over the next couple of weeks. I'll meet with my MP (whoever s/he may be) and also try the PCC.

unwashedanddazed · 01/07/2024 01:38

Thank you for all that you've done. Women are safer because of you, even if you can't finish all that you set out to achieve.

I'm so sad to read that other women purporting to have the same goals have made everything so difficult for you. I'm lost for words at their behaviour.

JanesLittleGirl · 30/06/2024 21:50

@KeepPrisonsSingleSex I am saddened to see your collective withdrawal from the fray. You have made a massive contribution to the safety of imprisoned women and I remain eternally grateful for your efforts.

ArabellaScott · 30/06/2024 20:15

SPS will no longer provide data on where prisoners who identify as transgender are held and recent reports indicate that it may no longer be permitted to name them in the press.

Gilead and Brave New World, all wrapped up in one.

KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 30/06/2024 19:16

This is our post thread setting out the work we have done. We have saved Scotland until last. This is a hard thread to write. Whilst the situation is hard everywhere in the UK, it is particularly so in Scotland, where children, women & vulnerable adults are under threat from a government seemingly hellbent on destroying the very possibility of safeguarding, as well as placing restrictions on freedom of speech that are only fitting for a totalitarian regime. And what of this government? The institution that is Holyrood appears rotten to its core. It is so steeped in cronyism & nepotism, that, from what I have seen, the principles of parliamentary democracy no longer exist within those walls. This is shameful & terrifying. Whilst the bravery & determination of overwhelmingly women, but men too, is a beacon of light & inspiration, this remains a dark & frightening time. Our relationship with women & organisations in Scotland has always been very special and has resulted in much joint working (including been behind the scenes). As we made clear in our Exit Statement earlier in June, Kate will be continuing to support women in prison, former offenders & whistleblowers: many of these are in Scotland and she will continue to work with our colleagues where needed.

In December 2022 we published a supplementary document: How Police Scotland Record Suspects' Sex in Crime & Incident Reporting:

https://kpssinfo.org/how-police-scotland-records-suspects-sex-pdf/

We included Police Scotland in our 2023 update:

https://kpssinfo.org/how-police-forces-in-the-uk-record-suspects-sex-2023-update/

In both 2022 & 2023, Police Scotland demonstrated their commitment to recording self-declared gender identity, not sex as registered at birth.

In December 2022 we published our supplementary document on Disclosure Scotland checks & identity change. We found evidence of the same loopholes in the DBS system that have been created when someone changes gender as part of changing their identity:

https://kpssinfo.org/disclosure-scotland-checks-pdf/

At the end of May 2022, we were asked to give evidence at Holyrood to the Equalities, Human Rights & Civil Justice Committee at Stage 1 of the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill. You can read Kate's opening statement here:

https://kpssinfo.org/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-opening-statement-session-6-equalities-committee-pdf/

Watch the session on our Vimeo here:

https://vimeo.com/715800570

Read our supplementary statement here:

https://kpssinfo.org/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-supplementary-evidence-pdf/

And read our Letter to the Secretary of State for Scotland here:

https://kpssinfo.org/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-letter-to-secretary-of-state-for-scotland/

Our work for prisons in Scotland has been as important to us as our work for prisons in England & Wales. The first "KPSS prisons' speech" Kate gave was at Glasgow Green in 2021. There have been many more protests & other events, some of which are on our Vimeo channel here:

https://vimeo.com/user164141014

In 2023, we held an online event to mark 200 Years of the Gaols Act with speakers including Johann Lamont, Ian Acheson & Rhona Hotchkiss:

https://vimeo.com/894278795

Despite the public, political & media outrage caused when convicted rapist Adam Graham/Isla Bryson was allocated to a women's prison, the Scottish Prison Service refuses to centre the safety of women in prison in their decisions concerning where men may serve their sentences. Unlike the Ministry of Justice, SPS is still hellbent on maximising every opportunity for men who say they are women to have access to women in prison, which includes living with them and the frankly perverse "day pass scheme" which permits those who even SPS deem unsafe to be housed in the female estate to access activities in women's prisons so that they might have the best chance of living amongst their chosen gender post-release. Along with MSPs, women's rights organisations, grassroots feminist groups and individual women, we fought hard to change the SPS policy. The SPS has simply redoubled their efforts to accommodate the demands of these men, even managing to go further than before: SPS will no longer provide data on where prisoners who identify as transgender are held and recent reports indicate that it may no longer be permitted to name them in the press.

Where we have had success south of the border with the new Adjudications Policy which provides considerable protection for freedom of speech, the same cannot be said for Scotland where the Hate Crime Act is a new threat that increases the risk that women in prison in Scotland will face criminal sanction for speech which, south of the border, would not even result in a Governor's Adjudication.

These are hard times & this is a hard thread to close with.

How Police Scotland Records Suspects' Sex PDF - Keep Prisons Single Sex

https://kpssinfo.org/how-police-scotland-records-suspects-sex-pdf

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AlisonDonut · 29/06/2024 11:15

I went to a meeting that used the tagline 'a woman's place is...' in 2019 and I asked a question to the presenters about safeguarding and risk assessments and was told that risk assessments are not important and are a 'box ticking exercise'. I have no idea who the groups are that you are referring to, but this attitude has been around a while and I know that they were announcing at the time they were going to focus on prisons and sports. But in my opinion were not really clued up enough to do so as per the response I got at the time.

Secondly, there is a pervasive lack of understanding of safeguarding overall. People who fail to see the issue hound people who do, and berate them for not providing perfect solutions when they don't even understand why we have safeguarding in the first place or how it needs reviewing regularly and tightening up often. Or how devious people (mainly men) are to manipulate those around them.

It is mind blowing to me how people fall for the shiny shiny over the grass roots nuts and bolts.

I just hope you are all able to, as fluffy as it sounds, heal from this shit show.

As my fluffy hippy dippy friend would say 'blessings'. As I would say 'fuck them and the goat they rode in on'.

Ramblingnamechanger · 29/06/2024 11:01

Please don’t go until you get access to the Labour leader after JKRs intervention. Thank you. You have been crucial in changing the narrative on this.

Chariothorses · 29/06/2024 10:55

Thanks for all your work for women and girls , both seen and unseen xx

KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 29/06/2024 09:42

In this penultimate post we will be setting out our work & achievements for prisons in England & Wales. Our final post will be on Scotland.

We will also set out some of the gatekeeping, exclusion, interference in our work, abuse, gaslighting & bullying Kate/KPSS has been subjected to. This has come from groups & individuals across the GC “movement”. We won’t name names so please don’t ask us to. This may help some of you to understand why we have decided to close KPSS.

KPSS was set up in July 2020 by Kate with what was a small Twitter account. By 2021 our work was having an impact: this included well-attended briefings for Parliamentarians and professionals working in the CJS, regular written and oral parliamentary questions that enabled us to find out information that we could not access otherwise, successful media engagement.

One of the most important pieces of work we did was the two lots of “prisons amendments” to the Police Crime Sentencing and Courts Bill brought in the House of Lords. You can read about that here:

https://kpssinfo.org/house-of-lords-amendments/

These amendments came at a time when the MoJ was revising the policy that permitted male prisoners to be allocated to women’s prisons: that policy had lead to many bad decisions as it was based on a flawed “risk assessment” which also gave preferential treatment to those with GRCs, no matter their conviction.

One might have thought that Kate would have been supported in the prisons amendments within the GC “movement”. However she was met with contemptuous sneering for choosing the “wrong” peers and was told no one would want to know. There were attempts to take them over that included issuing inaccurate briefings. Finally, she was instructed to abandon them, told that they were just “blundering” and that “prisons must take its turn”. Kate was upset, anxious & confused.

Kate consulted her own advisors, external to the GC “movement” who urged her to continue, explaining that this was a one off opportunity that would not come again, particularly in consideration of the timing around the MoJ policy review. We continued with the amendments. Through these amendments we got almost 3 hours debate in Parliament & extensive media coverage. It was a major tipping point in getting the MoJ policy changed.

After the amendments Kate was given a complete rollocking for having disobeyed and not done as she was told. This was an extremely difficult & isolating time.

It was clear that by 2021 there was consolidated activity between the Main GC Groups, with the aim of maximising overall reach. It was also clear that KPSS was not included. One of the factors Kate discussed with her advisors was whether pushing ahead with the prisons amendments could result in further exclusion. We decided that it was a risk worth taking. We are unconvinced that if Kate had done as she was told that the gatekeeping and exclusion would have turned out any differently, but we do believe that Kate’s “bad behaviour” gave the gatekeepers “justification” for their decision to keep Kate/KPSS on the other side of what has been a firmly closed door.

The work to get the allocation policy changed continued throughout 2022. Hardworking women & grassroots feminists groups (you forever have our respect & admiration - thank you) facilitated a series of prisons protests throughout the UK. You can read about these here:

https://kpssinfo.org/protests/

However, there were moves to interfere with our work here too. One group spread damaging lies nationally intended to undermine Kate’s integrity - these still come back to her 2 years later. Simultaneously the same group also sought to poach members of the KPSS team to set up their alternative prisons group making out that KPSS had somehow agreed to this.

We also did work in the media with whistleblowers, keeping the pressure on the MoJ. Much of that work was behind the scenes and you won’t see our name mentioned in any of these key articles. The crunch moment came in August 2022, when Dominic Raab announced that the policy would change:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11088219/Trans-prisoners-barred-womens-jails-strict-new-policy-proposed-Dominic-Raab.html

The new policy that came into force in early 2023 placed restrictions on the allocation criteria that permit men to be held in the female estate. Whilst by no means perfect, fewer men than ever before are now in women’s prisons and crucially having a GRC no longer makes a difference. We have always argued for GRC-blind policies and were delighted that this new one conformed to that standard. The importance of this policy internationally cannot be understated: it set a global precedent for minimum standards for women’s safety with a starting position that considered the risk to women in prison, not the wishes of male prisoners. Again, thanks to the MoJ for engaging in good faith: the contrast with SPS could not be more stark.

Another key success came earlier this year. Since 2023, we have been supporting 3 prisoners who have been sanctioned in different ways for “transphobic speech”. That support has taken different forms & for 1 prisoner involved obtaining senior KC’s opinion. May 2024 saw the release of the new Adjudications Policy Framework which specifies that no prisoner can be compelled to use “preferred” pronouns and which sets a high bar for language or behaviour to be a matter for disciplinary action. We are confident that none of the 3 prisoners we have supported would face sanction under this new policy.

Since the prisons amendments in late 2021/early 2022, we have seen the expansion of “GC activity” throughout parliament and policy think tanks. In overall terms, access to ministers, parliamentarians, civil servants & policy “wonks” has increased. By contrast, our reach has diminished: any success we have had for women in prison depended upon the work we did in 2021 and those very few individuals who have chosen to continue to engage with us. Our observation is that our diminished reach is the result of highly effective gatekeeping: those few individuals who will still engage & the work that results are, in our view, the exception that prove the rule.

Kate has tried for years to rectify the situation, offering our help & assistance, expressing genuine willingness to find a solution. She has always been unsuccessful. On one occasion where she was asked to present at a meeting she was told that this was a one-off non-repeatable event and she should not think this signified any change in the status quo.

As well as the detrimental effect on our work, the psychological & emotional impact on KPSS team members has been immense. We have been lied to, gaslit, told to stop complaining and advised to simply work harder. In tandem KPSS and in particular Kate have been insulted and rubbished, people including those in Parliament have been instructed not to work with her, she has been described as untrustworthy and “difficult”, she has been insulted and laughed at. We are acutely aware of what we could have achieved under different circumstances. And that includes for female offenders. The situation, which we consider to be bullying, we have faced is entrenched and systemic. Individually, & as an organisation, we are broken.

Trans prisoners to be barred from women's jails in strict new policy

Justice Secretary Dominic Raab plans to block transgender prisoners who are biologically male from serving in women's jails following several incidents, including trans prisoner Karen White (pictured).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11088219/Trans-prisoners-barred-womens-jails-strict-new-policy-proposed-Dominic-Raab.html

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ADHDHDHDHD · 25/06/2024 17:21

I'm so sorry to hear you are closing. I can only assume it's the vitriol you are subjected to, and not a lack of funds?
Thank you for what you have done. The 'heavy lifting'.

QueenofTheBorg · 25/06/2024 17:15

Thank you for all you have done. It's shameful that you should have needed to do it. 💐

KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 25/06/2024 17:13

More generally, we have serious concerns around the Equality Act: it's role has ceased to be that of a consolidating act that is about the carefully delineated circumstances of non-discrimination. It is now being used as an instrument to regulate interactions, as a method to organise society and as a way to specify individuals' entitlements. Our observation is that the GC insistence on adopting a rights-based solution to crack every nut is adding to this misuse. We shut up shop at the end of this month. But our work will remain relevant. Please use it.

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KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 25/06/2024 17:13

We were in the small minority of those who opposed the Truss Amendments and in April 2024, we published this briefing note. Again, this has fallen on deaf ears and doors remained slammed shut.

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KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 25/06/2024 17:12

Over the course of 2023, we redrafted the relevant sections of the Equality Act 2010 to provide a worked example of an alternative approach at clarification, which left "sex" unmodified as sex registered at birth and which "locked down" and tightly specified concepts including "gender", "gender expression", "gender identity" and "gender reassignment" to provide careful boundaries to the protected characteristics that would (1) ensure no "creep" of the PC "gender reassignment"; (2) establish the function of a GRC within the EA; (3) ensure that there is no "encroachment" into the PC "sex", which in our re-draft remained locked down as sex registered at birth. We have been unable to get anyone in government to look at this. In our view this is testament to the success of GC Industry that leaves room only for GC Orthodoxy. Dissent, even debate, is not permitted.

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