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Pride month

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Hyperions · 01/06/2024 12:59

Has anyone noticed a dialling down in PRIDE logos on business websites today?

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StellaGreen · 04/06/2024 15:54

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 02/06/2024 09:11

What rights do men have that women don't? I'm genuinely interested.

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The right not to be raped? Ok I know it's not a right but lucky them to not fear this.
The right to walk down the street without being heckled or sexually hassled.
The right to be paid more for the same work...ok again, not a right but it might as well be.
The right to be listened to and taken more seriously....
The right to feel safer in their home than women

viques · 04/06/2024 15:43

PeppercornMill · 04/06/2024 15:35

International Women's Day is trans-inclusive. This year like many others we saw men wearing lipstick telling everyone what it means to be a woman.

So not even one little day for us?

StellaGreen · 04/06/2024 15:41

YourPinkDog · 01/06/2024 18:01

Sexuality is not a private issue. Straight people tell and show others they are straight all the time.

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Do they? I have never seen a straight parade or flag.
I have never heard of straight month or shops attaching straight flags to merchandise.....thank god

PeppercornMill · 04/06/2024 15:35

International Women's Day is trans-inclusive. This year like many others we saw men wearing lipstick telling everyone what it means to be a woman.

viques · 04/06/2024 15:27

I am so humbly grateful that - speaking as a member of approximately 50% of the worlds population - we are allowed to have one short midwinter day a year to call our own. Imagine how important you must be to get a whole month! In the summer too so lots of opportunity to get out there and have fun. Golly gosh.

So, yey! 👏 for International Womens’s Day. Sorry if we are offending anyone. March 8 th if you hadn’t noticed, it’s a boring time of the year, in the Northern Hemisphere at least, nothing much else happening so we really aren’t stepping on anyone else’s toes.

Be nice if we had a pretty little flag to wave .I suppose a red one would be appropriate, (periods and stuff) but we could always rip up our old clothes and make some bunting, it’s the sort of thing we are good at, apart from birthing every member of the human race since time immemorial that is, plus our contribution to the economic wealth of nations through paid and unpaid work.

🚩

AlwaysGinPlease · 04/06/2024 15:23

From the DPD App

Pride month
AlwaysGinPlease · 04/06/2024 15:10

we don’t base safeguarding for women and children on people’s lovely trans friends the same way we don’t base it on my lovely DH who won’t hurt a fly but still doesn’t belong in women’s spaces

Absolutely spot on

VolvoFan · 04/06/2024 14:55

"You’re probably not going to come across many trans people in your life"

Yet we're all led to believe that they're everywhere. And we all have to celebrate them while ensuring that we address them by the correct/preferred pronouns.

I'd be okay-ish with Pride if it wasn't absolutely everywhere and if I wasn't referred to as a 'chest-feeding bleeder with a bonus hole'. The 'bonus hole' is particularly egregious since it suggests that not every woman has a vagina.

There are men and women out there secretly getting off to my anger, I'm certain of it.

Swamphag · 04/06/2024 14:55

Bah! Did I miss a drive by scolding?
They happen so fast these days sigh

ditalini · 04/06/2024 14:05

RubyBirdy · 04/06/2024 12:31

I understand that it can be stressful to try and remember to use ‘they’ and ‘them’ for example, I’ve done it myself and accidentally used ‘she’ and don’t want to be seen as being rude etc, but I think that there should be understanding on both sides and, as I said, actually both sides can be too angry and extreme imo. You’re probably not going to come across many trans people in your life, you don’t sound like you’re going to be going to pride any time soon, so I probably wouldn’t worry about it too much.

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You didn't read it did you.

BeelzebubsGargoyle · 04/06/2024 13:57

Oh, and now I see you've left. Sorry. Hadn't caught up with the thread.

fedupandstuck · 04/06/2024 13:57

YourPinkDog · 04/06/2024 13:55

Scolder? Is that the latest insult for someone who does not agree with you?

No, it's a description of posters who make sweeping negative claims ("trans hate", "ridiculous panic") and don't engage meaningfully in response to reasonable posts that question them. As I'm sure you know, really.

BeelzebubsGargoyle · 04/06/2024 13:57

RubyBirdy · 04/06/2024 12:35

I’m sure as there are nice men and horrible men, nice women and horrible women, there are also nice trans people and horrible trans people.
Maybe a third space/toilet/groups/sports should be created so everyone feels safe and happy? I don’t have the answers, and I’m glad I don’t have to find them and try and keep everyone happy, but I would like both women and trans people to all have the same opportunities and ‘safe spaces’, whatever that looks like.

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That's all cool.

I wholly agree re third spaces, that would be a really sensible option.

The problem we have is that when transwomen (men) say they want to use women's 'safe spaces', that renders those spaces mixed sex - less safe for women.

fedupandstuck · 04/06/2024 13:55

@RubyBirdy that's disappointing. I'm surprised that you think that everyone posting on this thread is incapable of rational discussion. There seem to have been plenty of reasonable and well-explained posts in response to you.

YourPinkDog · 04/06/2024 13:55

Scolder? Is that the latest insult for someone who does not agree with you?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/06/2024 13:49

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 04/06/2024 13:48

The better class of be kind scolder you mentioned earlier also had more stamina...

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They really did

ah well….

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 04/06/2024 13:48

Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/06/2024 13:45

lol well that didn’t last very long…..

The better class of be kind scolder you mentioned earlier also had more stamina...

YourPinkDog · 04/06/2024 13:47

Happy pride month.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/06/2024 13:45

lol well that didn’t last very long…..

RainWithSunnySpells · 04/06/2024 13:44

'Happy pride month everyone!'

... and genuflect, then genuflect some more.

changeison · 04/06/2024 13:43

RubyBirdy · 04/06/2024 13:40

I’m going to leave this conversation here, as you all seem to be incapable of having a rational discussion. Happy pride month everyone!

"I can't pick your arguments apart because I don't have a compelling counter argument of my own"

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 04/06/2024 13:43

RubyBirdy · 04/06/2024 13:29

Ah yes, mumsnet, the place of all the wisest and most knowledgeable educated gender experts of the highest degree, I don’t know I needed a phd in gender ideology before I dared to enter a discussion. I am allowed an opinion and as someone who is open to discussion on the subject, being jumped on by everyone hasn’t helped your cause.

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Like everyone, you are entitled to an opinion on anything. Like everyone, if your opinion isn't based on any kind of actual knowledge, you can expect people whose opinions ARE based on knowledge to point that out to you, and criticise you for it.

Peskysquirrel · 04/06/2024 13:40

Now there's a surprise...

RubyBirdy · 04/06/2024 13:40

I’m going to leave this conversation here, as you all seem to be incapable of having a rational discussion. Happy pride month everyone!

RubyBirdy · 04/06/2024 13:39

Sloejelly · 04/06/2024 13:20

Did you read the link a pp provided? Or do you not want to listen or think? May be a read of the Adams vs ERCC might be a good place to look too to see where this takes us.

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You are incredibly rude and angry. It might be worth your while to look into discussion techniques as your current method of wanting people to agree with you by insulting them isn’t proving very successful.