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Pride month

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Hyperions · 01/06/2024 12:59

Has anyone noticed a dialling down in PRIDE logos on business websites today?

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LaurenOlivier · 06/06/2024 17:26

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine 😂 I don't often refer to myself as gold star but I might start actually!

LaurenOlivier · 06/06/2024 17:25

@YourPinkDog look I know it has infuriated your "community" that none of the insults, threats, dog whistling and general bullshit you have thrown at us for the last decade has worked. Let me tell you now: it will never work. We will continue to shine a light on your behaviour and we will continue to advocate for all the women, men and children that see through you.

We see through you. And this gold star lesbian will never acquiesce. Not now and never in my name my dear.

TicklishLemur · 06/06/2024 17:21

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:42

And the reason I said that none of you seem like you are part of the LGBT community as the way you talk gives zero insight into what is actually happening. Sure some of you might be lesbians or bisexual, but unless you are part of the LGBT community - going to events, socialising, going to bars - then anything you know you are simply reading. You have no actual experience of what is happening.
Things have changed from even 5 years ago.

Maybe go and read the AMA from the young trans-identified female and what she has to say about sexual predators in the community. Will you accuse her of not really being LGBT?

Sloejelly · 06/06/2024 17:19

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 17:04

More insults. You know that is not what I said. Men rape and sexually assault women and men. I said it already on this thread.

And transwomen commit sexual offences at three times the rate of other men.

TicklishLemur · 06/06/2024 17:16

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:16

Then you would know it is not the late transitioners causing most of the issues.

Where did I say that?

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 06/06/2024 17:15

MarieDeGournay · 06/06/2024 17:11

Anecdotal and unscientific comment on randomly-observed Pride-promoting stuff:
if it's not in drag, sequinned, shiny, glittery or flouncy, it's not Pride.
So that's a lot of us left out. And (arguably more seriously) it's a lot of gender/sexuality questioning young people looking at all that glitter and flounce and saying 'That's what being gay is all about? that's not me...'

And (arguably more seriously) it's a lot of gender/sexuality questioning young people looking at all that glitter and flounce and saying 'That's what being gay is all about? that's not me...'

ABSOLUTELY.

MarieDeGournay · 06/06/2024 17:11

Anecdotal and unscientific comment on randomly-observed Pride-promoting stuff:
if it's not in drag, sequinned, shiny, glittery or flouncy, it's not Pride.
So that's a lot of us left out. And (arguably more seriously) it's a lot of gender/sexuality questioning young people looking at all that glitter and flounce and saying 'That's what being gay is all about? that's not me...'

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 17:04

More insults. You know that is not what I said. Men rape and sexually assault women and men. I said it already on this thread.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 06/06/2024 17:02

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 17:00

@LaurenOlivier fine be insulting. I will leave you to all of your imaginary issues.

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Imagine referring to rape as an 'imaginary issue'...

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 06/06/2024 17:01

LaurenOlivier · 06/06/2024 16:57

Oh congratulations on being a part of "the community" here's a shiny gold star: 🌟

Noooo @LaurenOlivier those are reserved for the Gold Star lesbians, you can't go giving them away to all and sundry!

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 17:00

@LaurenOlivier fine be insulting. I will leave you to all of your imaginary issues.

LaurenOlivier · 06/06/2024 16:57

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 15:39

And I know that because I am part of the LGBTQ community. You are all simply reading scare stories but in most cases have no understanding of what you are talking about.

Oh congratulations on being a part of "the community" here's a shiny gold star: 🌟

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 06/06/2024 16:56

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:45

Of course some criminal men pretend to be trans. We see it with various serial killers. It is a way to get privileges.

And how, pray tell, are we meant to tell the difference between the 15 stone male who is 'really trans' and the 15 stone male who is pretending to be?

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 06/06/2024 16:54

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:42

And the reason I said that none of you seem like you are part of the LGBT community as the way you talk gives zero insight into what is actually happening. Sure some of you might be lesbians or bisexual, but unless you are part of the LGBT community - going to events, socialising, going to bars - then anything you know you are simply reading. You have no actual experience of what is happening.
Things have changed from even 5 years ago.

What an utterly bizarre argument. What YOU know is based solely upon your own experience. What someone who reads widely around the issue knows is based on a collection of the experiences of many people, which builds up a picture.

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:45

Of course some criminal men pretend to be trans. We see it with various serial killers. It is a way to get privileges.

Sloejelly · 06/06/2024 16:42

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:40

@Sloejelly that is men. Men sexually assault and rape women and men.

Exactly. Men are a danger to women regardless of if they are transwomen or not. But the census shows men who identify as transwomen are several times more likely to be convicted of sexual offences.

Or are you suggesting that some men pretend to be trans? Isn’t that transphobic? After all acceptance without exception!

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:42

And the reason I said that none of you seem like you are part of the LGBT community as the way you talk gives zero insight into what is actually happening. Sure some of you might be lesbians or bisexual, but unless you are part of the LGBT community - going to events, socialising, going to bars - then anything you know you are simply reading. You have no actual experience of what is happening.
Things have changed from even 5 years ago.

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:40

@Sloejelly that is men. Men sexually assault and rape women and men.

Sloejelly · 06/06/2024 16:39

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:16

Then you would know it is not the late transitioners causing most of the issues.

So these ones aren’t causing ‘most of the issues’? Just some of the issues?

Pride month
YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:38

Kicking up a fuss in gay venues, threatening to get people cancelled, trying to organise boycotts of venues, constantly complaining about wording of posters and advertising posts. Just being constant pains so that people stop organising things because they get so fed up with them.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 06/06/2024 16:37

Peskysquirrel · 06/06/2024 16:11

To misquote Jesus, the monitors are always with us @TicklishLemur

Didn't see what it said but this is what is 🙄 about on here -
Things like "if you see any transphobia, report it."
Someone does - it's always "mutter, mutter, Monitors" and alludes and insinuations towards dark sinister Eyes pulling the strings behind the scenes or some such 🙄

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 06/06/2024 16:29

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:16

Then you would know it is not the late transitioners causing most of the issues.

What 'issues' are you referring to, out of interest? And are you prepared to be more specific about what kind of 'member of the LGBTQ community' you are?

I am a lesbian, and I think the late transitioners are causing a LOT of issues. At least the young university students have the excuse of being young and ignorant, as we all once were.

YourPinkDog · 06/06/2024 16:16

Peskysquirrel · 06/06/2024 15:59

It would be breathtakingly arrogant to assume that we "all" are simply reading scare stories and have no first hand experience of the issues discussed here.

Then you would know it is not the late transitioners causing most of the issues.

Peskysquirrel · 06/06/2024 16:11

To misquote Jesus, the monitors are always with us @TicklishLemur

TicklishLemur · 06/06/2024 16:05

I’m not sure why my comment was deleted I was just agreeing with @PeppercornMill about having seen it in teenage boys too 🤷