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Furries in schools

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Jamfirstest · 29/04/2024 22:51

I have name changed for this. Forgive me if this isn't the right board but I need to talk this through to get my head around this.

Another parent has just told me there is a furry community of young people at her dc secondary school which is in my city and an ordinary comprehensive.

The school is humouring the accessories and so on and they now have a designated room in the school to congregate. Apparently there was a request for a litter tray in the toilets though this was denied (google tells me this aspect might have been a hoax attempt).

The secondaries around here are super strict with uniforms. How is this allowed???

So I'm told some children will only respond in animal noises.

I knew what a furry was before. What adults do for fun is none of my business. But this in schools???? Or have I been under a rock?

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Perfect28 · 30/04/2024 15:28

Culture.war.

anunlikelyseahorse · 30/04/2024 15:17

There are furries at my kids school, tails, ears and whiskers (allegedly some kids have whiskers on elastic type bands, can't quite picture it myself!) all get taken off for science, DT, and food tech. for health and safety, otherwise the school don't seem to mind. I haven't asked but am confident there are no litter trays or anything remotely worrying about the current trend. It's the girls who like to pretend, and no they don't meow, bark or hiss in class (they do have their own animal 'language' for use with each other at break and out of school... although that could be all youths....it all sounds alien to me!) dd is not a furry herself, a couple of her friends are. I know as adults we read more into it, and as another poster has pointed out, for some kids who really do 'believe', there could be issues if they become isolated and go on line to seek out others. However in DD's friendship group it's more akin to the punks, goths and hippies of my school days!

Irridescantshimmmer · 30/04/2024 15:12

Someone stop the world, I'm getting off.

Boombatty · 30/04/2024 15:11

Interview with the group of kids. Interestingly, near the end, when asked why the teachers don't intervene they say that the head's daughter is a furry so she supports it!

https://twitter.com/scarlett4kids/status/1782201886927429859?t=unU131SSpDJJUTinz68axQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/scarlett4kids/status/1782201886927429859?s=19&t=unU131SSpDJJUTinz68axQ

Boombatty · 30/04/2024 15:03

If you want photographic evidence just search "furries in school" on Twitter/X. I don't think any of the photos are from inside school grounds as that would be illegal.

Boombatty · 30/04/2024 15:00

Cazpar · 30/04/2024 14:49

It's amazing how common this is. And how many teens have smart phones.

And yet, no-one has produced any photographic evidence of these children wearing ears in class, or eating out of bowls like animals, or "furry rooms", or litter trays in the toilets.

Anonymous "my cousin's friends kid goes to a school with a girl who meows" posts on social media prove diddly squat.

So now it's all made up because the press haven't published a photo of a (probably vulnerable) schoolchild wearing fox ears and a tail taken by another schoolchild in contravention of school rules? Right...

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/04/2024 14:59

@Cazpar I know. Funny that.

PonyPatter44 · 30/04/2024 14:50

@WhatAMessWales I agree with everything you wrote, particularly about it being the more marginalised and vulnerable children who continue to be made more vulnerable by this.

UtterlyOtterly · 30/04/2024 14:49

I regularly see a boy dressed as a wolf out and about, with a lanyard from the local 6th form college.

Probably harmless, I find my eyeballs rolling a lot.

Cazpar · 30/04/2024 14:49

Boombatty · 30/04/2024 14:12

It's really annoying for everyone who's experienced this to essentially be called a liar (and their children liars) in the absence of so-called "credible evidence".

If there were loads of instances of parents saying their children were eg being forced to eat everything on their plates at lunchtime but the schools denied this was happening would you also assume that the children/parents are all making it up just because you or your child havent experienced it happening? What "credible evidence" could you get of this?

What school is going to admit in the press that this is an issue for them? None! Yet my teacher friend says they are all fed up with it but get no support from SLT who don't want to address it.

It's amazing how common this is. And how many teens have smart phones.

And yet, no-one has produced any photographic evidence of these children wearing ears in class, or eating out of bowls like animals, or "furry rooms", or litter trays in the toilets.

Anonymous "my cousin's friends kid goes to a school with a girl who meows" posts on social media prove diddly squat.

LetsGoRoundTheRoundabout · 30/04/2024 14:40

Much of this sounds the same as things have always been. I was a goth in high school - pushed the uniform policy by wearing studded belts, jewellery. Some teachers ignored it, others pulled me up on uniform rules. Our sixth form common room was made up of multiple small rooms owned by friendship groups - so ours was known as “the goth room”. We didn’t meow but we would sometimes speak in Marilyn Manson quotes. Our parents were terrified that we were worshipping the devil and doing drugs, in reality apart from a smattering of underage drinking we were pretty nice kids!

Obviously, if other kids are getting harmed by it, or some kids are getting away with bad behaviour for no reason, that’s different. But teenagers have always had “identities” that they take in to school, and use to push boundaries.

Boombatty · 30/04/2024 14:12

It's really annoying for everyone who's experienced this to essentially be called a liar (and their children liars) in the absence of so-called "credible evidence".

If there were loads of instances of parents saying their children were eg being forced to eat everything on their plates at lunchtime but the schools denied this was happening would you also assume that the children/parents are all making it up just because you or your child havent experienced it happening? What "credible evidence" could you get of this?

What school is going to admit in the press that this is an issue for them? None! Yet my teacher friend says they are all fed up with it but get no support from SLT who don't want to address it.

LakeTiticaca · 30/04/2024 14:10

This is what happens when authority is taken away from the adults and handed to the kids with free reign to do exactly what they want.
Who the hell didn't see this coming?
I will get my arse flamed for this (probably) but I call bullshit on this having to accommodate the persons wishes to identify as a dragon and scratch people indiscriminately because of their mental health. These kids are taking the piss.because nobody is ever allowed to say "NO" anymore

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/04/2024 14:09

Hmmm, all righty then.

Boombatty · 30/04/2024 14:03

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/04/2024 13:37

Seen what exactly though? You're not actually saying what they have seen.

?! People identifying as furries at school. I thought that would have been obvious in the context.

I'm not going to waste my time listing out all of the examples. The one my DD most recently mentioned was a girl who identifies as a dog walking around the lunchroom on all fours, mixing up her food (some kind of weird couscous and yoghurt combination) and eating it out of a bowl with no hands. She was visiting another school at an inter-school event and said none of the teachers or staff did anything about it. They just ignored it.

Favouritemeals · 30/04/2024 13:58

HelenaWaiting · 30/04/2024 08:18

This is just weak leadership. Schools do not have to pander to this nonsense. I wouldn't have put up with it when I was a Head Teacher, nor would the Head I was Deputy for at my previous school. If this is happening, the scrutiny should fall on the school leadership team, not the children. And frankly, they should be sacked.

I agree with this 100%

WhatAMessWales · 30/04/2024 13:57

The trouble with 'is this really happening?' is we can slip from one definition of 'this' to another.

If 'there are litter trays' is debunked, does that mean the rest of 'this' isn't happening either?

I've heard enough first hand accounts from teachers and children to feel confident that something is happening. Yes, it's a kids subculture, but if Darren the Goth had turned up at school in his massive boots, rings and leather coat, they'd send him home, right? Schools/teachers have been so cowed by identity campaigners that they are hindered from pushing back on behaviour that's clearly unacceptable.

Smart kids can spot an opportunity a mile off. "I can wear cat ears and a tail, even though I can't wear earrings or boots. I can refuse to speak in lessons and get away with disruptive behaviour. Great."

This might not mean they're fully signed up to furry subculture. But even if they're just playing with it, some really bad things are already happening. It's not harmless. Some of them will drift further into it than they might ever have planned to. Everyone can see that adults/the school are not holding any kind of sane or consistent line, and disruption is being tolerated. But most of all, when most kids have moved on, the ones who are still all-in on this are the most socially isolated and vulnerable kids, who are being encouraged to isolate themselves further, and have basically been primed to seek out 'furry culture' online. And guess who they're going to find.

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/04/2024 13:54

@Insomniahasclearlygotme

Interesting how "has a litter tray" so quickly became...

As far as I am aware the litter tray she requested was denied but she has been given a designated toilet.

🙄

Cailin66 · 30/04/2024 13:53

Yes this is happening. I know of two cases. My niece and nephew in an Irish secondary school where one girl identifies as a dog. My nephew and a gang of lads bark at the 'dog' to file her up as they think it's nonsense. Some of the other girls are non binary and pick which bathroom to use.

In another Irish school one toilet has been designated for trans, my youngest is in this school. The school principal told me she avoids pronouns by using the children first name

And I know of a case in South Africa where one child identifies as a wolf. I have not heard of litter trays though.

Insomniahasclearlygotme · 30/04/2024 13:52

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/04/2024 13:45

🤣

So you're telling me that a pupil in your child's school assaulted them in class.

They got away with it?

But instead of going to the school, and subsequently going to the press, if this was actually true, you are just posting about it on an online forum?

Also, they have a litter tray... Which presumably they use?

Where is it? Is it in the toilets? You would genuinely expect us to believe this.

To be clear, it was dealt with by school after I did raise a complaint when he came home. He is not the only child this happened to, there is wider context not relevant to the OP, and I’m not particularly pleased with his reaction after DS told his science teacher to fuck off when she intervened in favour of the young girl because of her “mental health issues” (not making light that was the explanation I was given). No I did not go to the press as I do not believe that would help in the slightest. How I chose to deal with the situation is my business.

As far as I am aware the litter tray she requested was denied but she has been given a designated toilet. I’m simply saying that actually yes this is happening in schools.

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/04/2024 13:51

@bookworm14 👏

bookworm14 · 30/04/2024 13:48

Insomniahasclearlygotme · 30/04/2024 13:41

Yep, this is happening in DS secondary school too. The young girl in question identifies a cat/dragon hybrid and has so far been allowed to scratch my son on the arm for attention (he came home with literal claw marks on his arm and blazer), is allowed to sit on top of the desks during lessons and has a litter tray.

Absolute madness.

I just don’t believe you I’m afraid.

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