There's nothing I can do about this, is there?

Says the person who thinks there's no difference between a barista and a funeral director and who apparently can't grasp the idea that work dress codes exist and differ between employers and professions?

Goodness, you're being very silly.

I agree, suggesting that someone who works in a place where the code leans to office wear can go in dressed in a t-shirt and leggings because trans, and the idea that a barista has the same dress code as a funeral director is very obtuse.

I wouldn’t bet on it, as I said in a previous post elsewhere, generation Alpha are at the sharp end of this, and they are sick to the back teeth of it. It’s not just the fact that the light of the Cass Report being shone on the harms being done, it’s the fact that it is a fad that is now being rejected, it will become seriously uncool with this generation. That, coupled with the fact that the vast majority, even of students going through uni at the moment, didn’t believe any of it to start with will help.

The further revelations to come through the thousands of detransitioners worldwide will dismantle the rest of the claims that transitioning is always a good thing. Nobody wants to be seen as supporting something that is so harmful to children. My heart goes out to Jazz Jennings, the American child whose abusive “treatment” was televised, at least that poor child’s suffering has been recorded for posterity and stands as testimony to the harms this “treatment” can often cause.

Eventually the insurance companies for the medical professionals that are doing this will consider it too high risk and will stop covering medics involved in it. I can see the GRA, if not being revoked, at least being amended and restricted to only those who have fully transitioned, and only in limited circumstances as the rights of natal females to single sex provision will be further enhanced. This won’t happen until after the investigations which I don’t think the Government will be able to avoid, I don’t think that they will have any other option eventually.

That’s the thing with reality, it always wins in the end, lies can only exist where they can’t be challenged and JK defanged the Hate Crime Laws on the first day, with her challenge to the Scottish Police. We can call a tran woman a man and they can’t arrest us for that. Sorry to disillusion you, but Scottish women won’t wheesht and nobody can make us.

The faux obtuseness is embarrassing.

Well if it meets the dress code then yes it is OK. However PP seemed to be very clear that the dress code in that workplace leant towards office wear however, so I suspect they haven't thought it through.

What's the difference, really, between that and a cafe worker?

Are you genuinely, seriously, in good faith, asking whether there's a difference between a server in a cafe and a funeral director?

Are manners and consideration for others such an outdated concept now?
Is farting loudly in a restaurant socially acceptable? Taking off your shoes and picking loose skin off your feet at your desk okay? Blowing your nose on curtains? Taking your trousers down and scratching itchy bits whilst chatting to your boss? Thin leggings showing cock and balls as a funeral director are fine, are they? No? What's the difference, really, between that and a cafe worker?

And if his employer doesn't send him home that then means it's perfectly ok. Or something.

My husband has a rare day in the office next week. Since Covid dress code is more relaxed but definitely still leans to "office wear".

Maybe he could don a cute T shirt and some nice tight leggings that show his meat n two veg off. Live and let live and all. When he stops by the desks of seated female colleagues for a quick chat he absolutely shouldn't worry about the fact his penis is pretty much in their face. After all he's just living authentically.

But then he won't do that because he's not a boundary trampling wanker and would never dream of putting his personal need for self expression above the comfort of anyone, especially women.

The "time and place' factor appears to be passing some people by.

Maybe it just isn't taught any more. Some social "rules" exist for bloody good reasons.

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The fact that he was clearly enjoying the attention would be made me adamant to not give him the satisfaction of thinking I'd noticed!

I'd keep my eyes firmly at eye level.

Tbh I really dislike low cut big boob cleavage revealing situations too but that may be because I have a very ugly open heart surgery scar where mine is.

I can only echo what others have just come on to say.

Men's rights and feelings prioritised over women's. Not a new thing and more depressingly the amount of women propping this up.

It's interesting how many organisations will fall over themselves to accommodate the feelings and boundaries of a what's apparently a vanishingly tiny proportion of the population. Time and money needed for this is no object.

The feelings and boundaries of a woman who has been made to feel uncomfortable aren't as important.

That's what's happening here.

Like a PP said, 'protected caste' nails it.

Not familiar with rabid trans activism no?

No they don't. If an employee is not meeting the dress code they should be pulled up on it.

Presumably they have to tread quite carefully, as Accidentally says.

Who hadn't sent the employee home to change, given that OP said he was in the same kind of attire.

If this individual is not being pulled up about dressing inappropriately in the workplace, I'd bet his employer is probably scared of being labelled a big transphobe by the usual hard of thinking zealots.

Oh, and the person posted to the branch to 'observe' the guy in leggings in response.

Going by the response the OP had to her email, they weren't happy.