An MSP (Murdo Fraser) threatening legal action against Police Scotland after his twitter/x post was logged as a hate incident

Powerful people making a fuss in the media? Quickly sorted out, no scandal to see here…now how about the rest of us with “incidents” that aren’t really “incidents”?

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 16:07

Well, that could be reason for optimism, but I wonder how it'll work for ordinary people? Powerful people do tend to get fairer treatment.

I go where the food makes me! I plan to get in a little haggis hunting whilst I'm there as well. Might as well surround myself with foods I do like in order to cope with the lemon drizzle cake references that I will be forced to endure reading whilst there so that I can report you all for hate crimes.

(I found myself in the cake aisle of the local supermarket the other day. There was so much lemon drizzle cake putting me off that I left with no cake at all.)

I presume you’re heading to near Glasgow?

Did someone mention Tunnocks?

Not if you have enough Tunnocks Tea Cakes to distract Boiled... Possibly.

I’ll not bother with my request then

https://order-order.com/2024/03/27/police-delete-tory-mps-non-crime-hate-incident-record/

'Tory MP and Deputy Party Chairman Rachel Maclean had a “non-crime hate incident” (NCHI) added to her record by local police for tweeting that the Greens “don’t know what a woman is” in December. A comment that no doubt came after seeing the Green candidate…

The Free Speech Union, which is also working north of the border on Tory MSP Murdo Fraser’s case, took on Maclean’s. They have now succeeded in, following an apology from the police, getting the “incident” deleted altogether by establishing that what Maclean said does not represent a “real risk of significant harm to individuals or groups with a particular characteristic and/or a real risk that a future criminal offence may be committed against” them. This is clearly set out in the new statutory guidance…
A response, sent yesterday from West Mercia Police Deputy Chief Constable Richard Cooper, establishes the mistake has been rectified:
“Having sought the advice from the Legal Department and Force Crime and Incident Registrar, it has been determined that the incident did not meet the definition of an ‘incident’ as defined by the National Standard for Incident Recording.

As a result, the ‘hate incident’ and indeed the personal details have now been removed from the West Mercia Police systems.“'

Rose Street is fine. It's Scott Street that's like climbing the north face of the Eiger.

UltraLiteLife · Today 19:02

I'll bow to your superior knowledge,it's a while since I've been that way.

Phlogiston? Bless You!

Phlogiston could explain a lot, tbh.

Rose Street is a fair steep place to be pushing up the fully refreshed and lively, if I recall my high incline streets off Sauchiehall correctly. But there's a lot in what you say re: the ease of even the digital paperwork…

JL690 - Do you remember the SNP's Named Person scheme?

I occasionally wonder if I hallucinated the Named Person scheme. And then other people remember it so I know that actual, appointed, adults considered this to be not only viable but desirable.

Can we revive the theory of miasmas and write some decisions in Scotland off to the terrible mists causing temporary derangement and no-one shall ever speak of them again?

Here’s one suggestion for avoiding a hate crime…

Change the site to ‘Irony Over Scotland’ and use antonyms of potentially offensive words – suffixed by ‘(A)’ or just state ‘Irony Alert’

We’ll all catch on.

Example:
I think that Nicola Sturgeon has been Scotland’s best(A) first minister and have always been impressed(A) by her honesty(A) and integrity(A)

I actually forgot about that little gem there really is no end to the ludicrous ideas, each one more strange than the last.

You may jest...

They'd do an entire powerpoint presentation to explain to you in depth how requiring them to was triggering, dangerous, literal violence, colonialist, something only white right wing people would do and denounce you as such, and then get you arrested for a non crime.

UltraLiteLife · Yesterday 15:37

...to be standing round Sauchiehall Street any night of the week plus any areas or transport surrounding an Old Firm match, ready to log these.

More likely Rose Street - they may have to log the location and can you imagine any of the dull-witted 2:2 Grievance Studies graduates being able to spell Sauchiehall?

I found an FOI that suggests a figure of £10 million for the implementation of the Named Person Bill (since scrapped). But its just the money given to LAs, not including the cost of paying legislators to create bullshit badly drafted legislation.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-18-01704/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43405134.amp

Offensive Behaviour act was repealed after 6 years.

How long will this one take? How much does all this shite legislation cost us?

Do you remember the SNP's Named Person scheme? Every child would have a state appointed guardian who could question a child about anything and keep it secret from the parents? Not children at risk, every single child. A spy in every family! Thank God it got binned by Westminster's intervention.

Form: www.acro.police.uk/s/acro-services/subject-access

NCHIs arose from the inquiry into the murder of Stephen Lawrence to allow police to quantify racist acts. Their original intention was to capture hatred in the community.

Their original intention was not to capture people stating biological reality and objecting to the world’s biggest medical scandal.

why, in the name of fuckity fuck are the Babylon recording things which are not crimes? They might as well be recording the incidences of stamp collecting or flower arranging. Unless, of course, they are simply compiling watch lists of wrong thinkers? Isn't that what the Stasi used to do?

That what I find amusing they go on about freedom, when infact they would regulate every aspect of life if they could mind you they are giving it a good go.