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An MSP (Murdo Fraser) threatening legal action against Police Scotland after his twitter/x post was logged as a hate incident

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StealthSpinach · 25/03/2024 07:26

I couldn’t see another thread on this - just wondering if a male complaining about ‘hate incidents’ registered against him will produce a different result compared with all the female complaints that have been dismissed.

An MSP is threatening to take legal action against Police Scotland after a tweet he posted criticising the Scottish Government’s transgender policy was logged as a ‘hate incident’.
Veteran Conservative Murdo Fraser said the force had ‘behaved not just outrageously, but unlawfully’ after learning that his name appears in police files for expressing a political view.
A trans activist reported the post on X, formerly Twitter, to Police Scotland whose officers decided it did not amount to a crime but should be classed as a ‘hate incident’ which will remain on record – even though no law had been broken.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13233691/Scots-Torys-police-row-hate-tweet-claim.html

Scots Tory's police row over 'hate' tweet claim

An MSP is threatening to take legal action against Police Scotland after a tweet he posted criticising the Scottish Government's transgender policy was logged as a 'hate incident'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13233691/Scots-Torys-police-row-hate-tweet-claim.html

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FrancescaContini · 25/03/2024 07:56

StealthSpinach · 25/03/2024 07:42

Seems the TRAs have already been practicing their reporting of ‘hate’ - I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a list of gender critical names ready to go on 1st April.

Can perceived “hate crimes” that pre-date April 1st be reported as such?? 😲

Hoardasurass · 25/03/2024 07:55

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2024 07:42

I hope he keeps kicking up a fuss about this. Do we know if NCHIs are disclosed on a PVG?

Yes they do, they also stay on your records for life and your not told that they are there unless you put in a subject access request.
As for Murdo taking this all the way having had many conversations with him about this and other tra issues (he's 1 of my MSPs) he won't let this drop.

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StealthSpinach · 25/03/2024 07:42

Seems the TRAs have already been practicing their reporting of ‘hate’ - I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a list of gender critical names ready to go on 1st April.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2024 07:42

I hope he keeps kicking up a fuss about this. Do we know if NCHIs are disclosed on a PVG?

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StealthSpinach · 25/03/2024 07:39

A trans activist was responsible for reporting to the police.

A member of the public reported the post to Police Scotland, claiming it constituted hatred against non-binary or transgender persons.
The Mail is not disclosing the name of the complainant, who is a trans activist.
Mr Fraser said the officer who followed up determined that ‘although no crime had been committed and the police would conduct no further investigation, the perception of the complainant meant that my post would be recorded as a “hate incident”, and a reference number was provided to the complainant’.
The MSP only found out about the ‘hate incident’ because the same activist had complained to the ethical standards commissioner of the Scottish parliament about the tweet. The complaint was not taken forward but as a result of this process Mr Fraser was alerted to the police report.

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ArabellaScott · 25/03/2024 07:37

JL690 · 25/03/2024 07:32

The SNP's vision for an "independent" Scotland. Only the party line is permitted, no other thoughts allowed. The sooner we get rid of these fascists the better.

The word fascist is enormously overused.

In this instance it is unfortunately accurate.

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StealthSpinach · 25/03/2024 07:36

More:

Last night Mr Fraser told the Mail: ‘Police Scotland has behaved not just outrageously, but unlawfully according to the legal advice obtained by the FSU. This is Police Scotland attacking free speech but it is more sinister than that. My tweet wasn’t pointing a finger at an individual, it was critical of a Scottish Government policy. If police are now treating criticism of SNP policy as hate incidents, that is a really serious issue as it shows how Police Scotland has been captured by the SNP policy agenda.’

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Waitwhat23 · 25/03/2024 07:33

I do wonder if this will be the final overstep for GI. TRA's are openly, gleefully encouraging each other to report every 'hate incident' and I think the backlash around NCHI's being recorded, on the say so of someone with an agenda, without any evidence of a crime being committed is coming rapidly.

JL690 · 25/03/2024 07:32

The SNP's vision for an "independent" Scotland. Only the party line is permitted, no other thoughts allowed. The sooner we get rid of these fascists the better.

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2024 07:32

And so it begins.