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Happy Women's History Month!

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ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 11:17

I had no idea women got a whole month!!!

I can't wait to see the flags flying from every government building and all the celebrations of women in history everywhere. 😊

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ArabellaScott · 02/03/2024 11:55

https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/430411-neolithic-mothers-and-the-survival-of-the-human-species

Feeding infants was an important topic even way back in Neolithic times.

'“Neolithic mothers served their babies gruel, probably a mix of milk and cereals, using carefully crafted bone spoons,” remarks Stefanovic. “Based on the bite marks found on these spoons, we can conclude that this food allowed mothers to wean their infant from breastmilk at an earlier age, which may have influenced fertility.” Stefanovic goes on to note that this new baby food likely resulted in a substantial restructuring of families – even society. “Less dependency on breastfeeding meant other members of society could help with childcare, essentially giving females more time to have more babies,” she says. “Thus, baby food was an important pillar for the increase in fertility seen in Neolithic Europe.”'

Neolithic mothers and the survival of the human species

New research uncovers the essential role that prehistoric mothers played in driving population growth during the Neolithic...

https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/430411-neolithic-mothers-and-the-survival-of-the-human-species

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SinnerBoy · 02/03/2024 10:20

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 12:51

Early cave artists were mostly women.

That's fascinating, whenever I've seen depictions of cave artists at work, they've always been men.

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 17:42

I knew that women were involved in all sorts of "men's" work, in farming, building and engineering etc, but had never heard about the bridge.

Here's one I do know about:

https://heatonhistorygroup.org/2018/04/07/the-stoneys-of-heaton-unsung-heroes-of-the-parsons-story/

After graduation, Edith came to Newcastle to work for Charles Parsons. There is, in Newcastle University Library, a letter sent by Charles Parson to Edith’s father, George Johnstone Stoney, in 1903. Parsons pays tribute to:

‘your daughter’s great and original ability for applied mathematics… The problems she has attacked and solved have been in relation to the special curvature of our mirrors for obtaining beams of light of particular shapes. These investigations involved difficult and intricate original calculations, so much so that I must confess they were quite beyond my powers now and probably would have been also when I was at Cambridge… Your daughter also made calculations in regard to the gyrostatic forces brought onto the bearings of marine steam turbines…’

The Stoneys of Heaton: unsung heroes of the Parsons’ story - Heaton History Group

Most people in Newcastle have heard of Sir Charles Parsons, the eminent engineer whose invention of a multi-stage steam turbine revolutionised marine propulsion and electrical power generation, making him world famous in his lifetime and greatly respec...

https://heatonhistorygroup.org/2018/04/07/the-stoneys-of-heaton-unsung-heroes-of-the-parsons-story

theremustbecake · 02/03/2024 10:12

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 12:51

Early cave artists were mostly women.

'New analysis of ancient handprints in France and Spain suggests that most of those early artists were women.
This is a surprise, since most archaeologists have assumed it was men who had been making the cave art. One interpretation is that early humans painted animals to influence the presence and fate of real animals that they'd find on their hunt, and it's widely accepted that it was the men who found and killed dinner.
But a new study indicates that the majority of handprints found near cave art were made by women, based on their overall size and relative lengths of their fingers.'

https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/prehistoric-cave-prints-show-most-early-artists-were-women-8c11391268

Wow, I always thought some women must have done some of them (even if always reported as men doing them), but no idea it was mostly women.

Biscofffan · 02/03/2024 09:47

Waiting patiently for the Welsh Government tweet to mark Women's History Month, as they marked the beginning, middle and end of LGBTQ+ awareness month.

Love all the fascinating stories here - thank you!

Moremorela · 02/03/2024 08:23

Wonderful, thank you for this thread, So interesting.

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 17:42

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/03/2024 16:40

I like this one from them:

https://twitter.com/TheAttagirls/status/1763104715846365555?s=19

Woman of the Day is Dorothy the welder. I can’t tell you her full name, where or when she was born or indeed anything else about her but she and her sister co-workers were vital to Britain’s war effort during WW2.

It all started because I wanted to know the name of the first RAC patrolwoman. She was Edith Hayley of Bradford in the 1960s but other than the fact that her job brought her into contact with “lots of angry men”, I couldn’t find out any more about her.

I tried the Automobile Association but as recently as 2017, it only had four patrolwomen so from there, I went looking for the first woman to qualify as a mechanic in the UK. Whoever she was, she remains invisible but the search led me to the Women’s Engineering Society website and that sent me down another journey of discovery that had nothing to do with cars and everything to do with Waterloo Bridge.

That’s right. Waterloo Bridge. Did you know that it was built mainly by women?

Although the contribution of women to the war effort in WW2 is documented, very little is known about their outstanding contribution to construction. In 1944, 25,000 women were working in the construction industry filling in labour gaps left by British men being sent to war. They were paid far less money than their male counterparts for doing the same work, of course.

Waterloo Bridge was considered of vital importance to the British Army’s transport of men and materials but in 1939, it was judged to be dilapidated and unsafe. The architect Giles Gilbert Scott (Liverpool Cathedral, Battersea Power Station, the iconic red telephone box) designed a new bridge but the old one had to be dismantled and the new design built in record time. Few men were available for this important work and so the construction company Peter Lind & Co. compromised by asking for ‘green labour’ – those new to the industry. What it meant was women. It just couldn’t bring itself to say the word ‘women'.

It is thought that 65% of the construction workers responsible for building Waterloo Bridge were women. Even today, some Thames riverboat pilots call it ‘the Ladies' Bridge’ but for years, it was dismissed as an urban myth because no documentary or photographic evidence could be found. Peter Lind & Co. went out of business in the 1980s and most of its records were lost.

However, historian Professor Christine Wall found photographic evidence in the archives of The National Science and Media Museum of women demolition workers taking the old bridge down and women welders working on the new construction. A man whose father worked on the bridge came forward to say that there were 'two grades of ladies'. Most of the women wore dungarees while those in more senior roles, responsible for operating vehicles, wore all-in-one overalls similar to the ones worn by the men.

At the official opening in December 1945, Deputy Prime Minister Herbert Morrison proclaimed: "The men who built Waterloo Bridge are fortunate men. They know that although their names may be forgotten, their work will be a pride and use to London for many generations to come."

He must have forgotten his specs. What he clearly meant to say was:
"The women and men who built Waterloo Bridge are fortunate. They know that although the men’s names may be forgotten and the women’s will never be known, their work will be a pride and use to London for many generations to come."
I’m happy to set the record straight.

Happy Women's History Month!
Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 17:00

Right, if we are doing this ourselves, I'm going for a modern historical moment for women, which will go down in history, that follows on from a long line of women throughout history who have lifted their skirts in anger and frustration.

On 22nd December 2022, immediately after the passing of the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill in Holyrood, Elaine Miller, a pelvic physiotherapist, and occasional wearer of a very fetching vulva costume, stood up in the public gallery and shouted:

“If this parliament will not respect the rights of women, then you have no decency. And if you will not be decent towards women who are being raped in jails right now that you’re in charge of, if you will not be decent, then I will be indecent. Get it right up yers. You TERRIBLE TERRIBLE people.”

And as she started to shout “then I will be indecent…” she raised her skirt and, thanks to an MSP with a phone on record, the world got a fantastic view of a fun fur merkin stuck to the front of her tights.

DialSquare · 01/03/2024 16:53

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 12:42

No! I am sick of sitting on that fucking camp chair. All these buggering vigils and no bugger yet has come up with a meaningful definition of 'gender identity' or anything that JKR said that was transphobic.

I'm going to gather examples of women's history instead.

Don't blame you!

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/03/2024 16:40

Women making history
https://twitter.com/TheAttagirls/status/1763467086137844162/photo/1

Happy Women's History Month!
ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 12:51

Early cave artists were mostly women.

'New analysis of ancient handprints in France and Spain suggests that most of those early artists were women.
This is a surprise, since most archaeologists have assumed it was men who had been making the cave art. One interpretation is that early humans painted animals to influence the presence and fate of real animals that they'd find on their hunt, and it's widely accepted that it was the men who found and killed dinner.
But a new study indicates that the majority of handprints found near cave art were made by women, based on their overall size and relative lengths of their fingers.'

https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/prehistoric-cave-prints-show-most-early-artists-were-women-8c11391268

Prehistoric cave prints show most early artists were women

https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/prehistoric-cave-prints-show-most-early-artists-were-women-8c11391268

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ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 12:42

No! I am sick of sitting on that fucking camp chair. All these buggering vigils and no bugger yet has come up with a meaningful definition of 'gender identity' or anything that JKR said that was transphobic.

I'm going to gather examples of women's history instead.

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DialSquare · 01/03/2024 12:40

Is this time for the chair to make an appearance Arabella?

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 12:38

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 11:17

I had no idea women got a whole month!!!

I can't wait to see the flags flying from every government building and all the celebrations of women in history everywhere. 😊

Would you like an extra cushion to sit on whilst you wait? Wouldn't want you to get uncomfortable during your 31 day wait.

Hoardasurass · 01/03/2024 11:19

Only if there's a special transwomen flag