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Boycott JL and Waitrose? : James Esses' latest Substack on John Lewis LGBTQIA++ 'Identity' mag

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PersephoneSeethes · 15/02/2024 18:31

I saw it this afternoon on Twitter and read the article with utter horror.

I was hoping it would be uplifting stories about people being accepted and living full lives

John Lewis and Waitrose are seemingly actively promoting and policing
pronoun usage by colleagues, Stasi-style. This seems like it is a court case, a-la-Forstater, waiting to happen.

They have an article about 'raising non-binary and transgender children', not from an information position in case Partners come across such families in their stores, but with a heavy activist slant.

I think I have finally been pushed to the edge with this beloved company. I can no longer shop with them, and I shop at Waitrose every week for our main shop, have done for over a decade.

This is a real gut punch because I believe in what Waitrose does, or used to do: they pay their farmers better, their animal welfare is better, their shops don't have the bright lights and loud noises that set off my migraines and irritate family members autistic temperaments. But as someone who grew up a tomboy, and would have been thrown under the gender bus by Stonewall and all the other organisations if I had been a child today, I can't stand by and accept all this nonsense.

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Teentaxidriver · 15/02/2024 20:09

Boycott. Buggeration. I do 75% of my shopping in Waitrose and JL, but I won't fund the madness.

HagoftheNorth · 15/02/2024 20:09

And yes, I will no longer be doing my weekly shop at Waitrose, and my cooker replacement won’t come from John Lewis. Really surprised that Waitrose thinks that middle-aged women is a demographic they can afford to piss off!

HagoftheNorth · 15/02/2024 20:06

This is what happens when the algorithm notices the brand name, but not the content!

Boycott JL and Waitrose? : James Esses' latest Substack on John Lewis LGBTQIA++ 'Identity' mag
duc748 · 15/02/2024 20:04

Hepwo · 15/02/2024 19:21

I think that magazine mail out was very recent @DontStopMe

Yes. Zooming in on that magazine front cover, it says, Issue 1, February 2024.

JulesJules · 15/02/2024 19:45

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DontStopMe · 15/02/2024 19:32

Fair enough @Hepwo, it looks like it has come out since I left, and it does look pretty horrific. I didn't receive any staff magazines while I was there.

lonelywater · 15/02/2024 19:32

why do these outfits act like it's still 2015? You have to be deliberately sticking your fingers in your ears whilst going "La La La" to not realise the shit is hitting the fan on an almost daily basis right now. weird.

Hepwo · 15/02/2024 19:21

I think that magazine mail out was very recent @DontStopMe

DontStopMe · 15/02/2024 19:18

Hmmm. I had a Christmas job with John Lewis, and didn't feel I had anything like this 'imposed' on me.
Yes, there were trans staff members, but no one ever asked me my pronouns, or told me theirs. I didn't see any trans staff in the toilets and very few people actually got changed on site.
I also noted that the personal information they record for staff includes Sex as well as Gender Identity. You can select N/A for Gender Identity to say "you do not identify within this category".

Hepwo · 15/02/2024 18:51

Terrible timing.

I don't think they have any idea that attempts to impose these ideas on staff are inappropriate.

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ImARubbishNickKnowles · 15/02/2024 18:43

https://twitter.com/legalfeminist/status/1758179493225582661?t=rdJn4N20JCPUAe0Em4opwQ&s=19

Legal Feminist had a few questions as well.

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