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Podcast for schools on 'Trans Euphoria' in children

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RachelWalshsDog · 09/01/2024 20:46

I've some across this podcast on twitter. It's by a male trans educational psychologist ,and seems to be a whole series for other educational psychologists and schools promoting gender ideology.

I've only listened to a bit of a couple of them so far, it seems to be using the concept of gender identity and linking to this to lots of 'research' and 'evidence.'

I'm going to try to listen to a bit more if I can bare it. I'm concerned that psychologists in schools are so openly promoting this dangerous nonsense.

Has anyone else come across this?

https://x.com/ClassroomPsych/status/1744734724868989172?s=20

https://x.com/ClassroomPsych/status/1744734724868989172?s=20

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/01/2024 08:18

Probably depends who was on duty at the time someone reported a post. The acronym appears on this thread in later posts.

OldCrone · 27/01/2024 08:00

I think some of the deleted posts were removed for using a common three letter abbreviation for people who might be physically attracted to children, there's an airport in Spain with the same three letters

The airport abbreviation refers to men who are aroused by the thought of themselves as women. Nothing to do with being attracted to children.

Crankywiddershins · 27/01/2024 05:58

@gregaliara I think some of the deleted posts were removed for using a common three letter abbreviation for people who might be physically attracted to children, there's an airport in Spain with the same three letters... I can do you a riddle if that would help?
The bigger reason is that we have some readers who like to throw their toys out of the pram to try and silence us. I suppose they think it will make it harder for the newly curious or recently peaked to follow if some posts are missing, but there's always a friendly terf around to explain.

gregaliara · 27/01/2024 05:38

I am stunned at the number of comments being judged NFP Perhaps it could be explained specifically why, if it bad language or really criminal style comments promoting violence I will understand, does anyone know why there are so many comments prevented

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 18:42

talks about how her experiences influence her practice

And so concerning too.

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 18:41

Cora and I discuss gender and alternatives to the bimodal system of male and female identities. She discusses her personal gender journey as a transgender woman and talks about how her experiences influence her practice as an Educational Psychologist.

So sexist.

And the recommended reading is full of the usuals.

RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 15:32

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 15:26

Ha no. I'd gone on to write about someone I've come across elsewhere who's now giving cpd to Leas but it wasn't quite the same and hard to describe the situation. Needs another thread

Basically, it feels that for as many "outside providers" that pop up and get into schools with their resources, there's x100 more 'professionals' who are doing things like writing books, podcasts, teaching trainees and working in schools.

The school's guidance around big using outside providers is the tip of the iceberg.

I agree with this.
It's the teachers, psychologists and social workers who are within the system who are going to perpetuate this.

At least some social workers are speaking up. The Ed Psych world is silent while Cora et al hold court.

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RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 15:29

YouJustDoYou · 10/01/2024 10:23

My 10 year old came home the other day and said the school told them that he could become a woman if he wanted and that some people are "born in the wrong body". We've already been warning him beforehand that the school would pull this shit on him at some point so he came home incredulous that they would spout these lies to them. I still cannot believe we as parents are not allowed to pull them out of those lessons.

There us a really good clear letter here @YouJustDoYou that's been shared on twitter today that explains to headteacher's why as a parent you do not want your child exposed to gender ideology.

https://x.com/FamEdTrust/status/1744979862346191077?s=20

https://x.com/FamEdTrust/status/1744979862346191077?s=20

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WarriorN · 10/01/2024 15:26

*not using

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 15:26

Ha no. I'd gone on to write about someone I've come across elsewhere who's now giving cpd to Leas but it wasn't quite the same and hard to describe the situation. Needs another thread

Basically, it feels that for as many "outside providers" that pop up and get into schools with their resources, there's x100 more 'professionals' who are doing things like writing books, podcasts, teaching trainees and working in schools.

The school's guidance around big using outside providers is the tip of the iceberg.

FrancescaContini · 10/01/2024 15:11

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 12:11

Bloody hell.

This sort of thing is popping up all over the place.

Pun intended?!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/01/2024 15:10

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 14:11

He's referring to a study on SCHOOL EXPERIENCES OF GENDER EUPHORIA.

Angry

The "study" appears to be of people sending in photos representing their "euphoria". There's an awful lot of using their "professional role" as an excuse to promote the transitioning of other people's children in schools. 🙄

Disappointing to see so many deletions on this thread. But I suppose it is incredibly revealing so some will be very keen to censor what's exposed.

FrancescaContini · 10/01/2024 15:08

YouJustDoYou · 10/01/2024 10:23

My 10 year old came home the other day and said the school told them that he could become a woman if he wanted and that some people are "born in the wrong body". We've already been warning him beforehand that the school would pull this shit on him at some point so he came home incredulous that they would spout these lies to them. I still cannot believe we as parents are not allowed to pull them out of those lessons.

Are you going to speak directly to the school about this? Schools aren’t allowed to teach gender ideology as fact.

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 14:11

He's referring to a study on SCHOOL EXPERIENCES OF GENDER EUPHORIA.

Angry
WarriorN · 10/01/2024 13:44

RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 12:47

Now he's talking about when he wears a 'cute' outfit he can float around on a euphoric high all day.

When I wear a nice outfit I look in the mirror and think 'nice' and then get on with day. But I'm a mere women not a TW.

He talks like an AGP man who is getting kicks from making everyone comply with his cosplay and excited with the idea he is 'cute'/ sexually interesting.

He also talks about his girlfriend and their son and seems to have transitioned after the birth of the son.

He is training psychologists who work in schools and who work with 'trans' kids. He is being promoted as the expert in the EP world.

And no one is questioing it,
It's insane.

This is extremely disturbing.

How can this be appropriate, allowed and un questioned?

Thank you for attempting to listen to this horrific shitshow.

TheClogLady · 10/01/2024 12:56

Surely almost everyone can agree that whatever is causing this late-onset transitioning male to claim a cross sex identity it has nothing whatsoever to do with autistic teenage girls experiencing gender distress at the onset of adolescence?

Cora’s male experience of transgenderism is irrelevant to a teen girl’s experience of transgenderism.

Dr Az Hakeem (psychiatrist & psychotherapist) might also be worth contacting (he’s written two useful, easy to read books on trans and detrans) for signposting? Seems like
Ed Psych deffo has a gendery problem that needs to be resolved in conjunction with the government schools guidance and the Cass Review?

Perhaps Hilary Cass needs an email too?

SinnerBoy · 10/01/2024 12:52

Helleofabore · Today 06:30

Do they happen to provide clickable links to the research? Or is it just saying that there is this research?m and never providing it?

Perhaps they're Druids, never writing anything down, so that the unalterable law is whatever is best to fit the circumstance?

RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 12:47

Now he's talking about when he wears a 'cute' outfit he can float around on a euphoric high all day.

When I wear a nice outfit I look in the mirror and think 'nice' and then get on with day. But I'm a mere women not a TW.

He talks like an AGP man who is getting kicks from making everyone comply with his cosplay and excited with the idea he is 'cute'/ sexually interesting.

He also talks about his girlfriend and their son and seems to have transitioned after the birth of the son.

He is training psychologists who work in schools and who work with 'trans' kids. He is being promoted as the expert in the EP world.

And no one is questioing it,
It's insane.

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RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 12:39

Blimey the mods are out on this thread...interesting.

I've listened to bit of the 'euphoria' podcast: about his euphoria about wearing a bikini top in public for the first time, or how he sits around in sweatpants cuddling & embracing the 'emotional side of gender' (I'm not sure how men & women wear trackies and cuddle differently?), or how he gets 'giddy' when people call him 'miss'.

This person is training educational psychologists. It;s insane.

He also talks about his recent visit to the physio, I wondered if he got an erection again like he did with the nurse.
He didn't mention it this time if he did.

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RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 12:28

Lynjo · 10/01/2024 11:52

As a retired educational psychologist with many years experience of specialist SRE teaching and training I find this horrifying. I have also worked with young autistic people, many of whom wished to change gender (you cannot change sex) because they thought it would make their lives better. It is working with them to manage their autism which makes their lives better. Many psychologists have what are called gender critical views but dare not express them for fear of repercussions. I hope the recent Rachel Meade victory will help.
I would suggest you follow @Psychgirl211 for interesting information on this area.

I'm a retired EP too.

I lurk on EP twitter and on here and am so concerned by what I see without any of the pushback trans promotion to children is getting in other areas.

It's like Ed Psychs are in an insular bubble getting away with a fetish man being the prominent voice and no one from inside the profession or outside is openly challenging it.

I may start a thread about educational psychology and my concerns more broadly.

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TheClogLady · 10/01/2024 12:22

I’ve started listening to the podcast and is it my imagination or does the host introduce hostself in the third person using a man voice, then swap to a lady-voice, then increasingly forget to do the lady-voice until hostself sounds exactly like the unnamed man-voice that did the OG introduction?

RachelWalshsDog · 10/01/2024 12:19

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 12:15

@RachelWalshsDog may I pm you

Please do.

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WarriorN · 10/01/2024 12:18

Psych girl is excellent as is ReadMorePiagetplease @prof_curiosity1

WarriorN · 10/01/2024 12:16

Lynjo · 10/01/2024 11:52

As a retired educational psychologist with many years experience of specialist SRE teaching and training I find this horrifying. I have also worked with young autistic people, many of whom wished to change gender (you cannot change sex) because they thought it would make their lives better. It is working with them to manage their autism which makes their lives better. Many psychologists have what are called gender critical views but dare not express them for fear of repercussions. I hope the recent Rachel Meade victory will help.
I would suggest you follow @Psychgirl211 for interesting information on this area.

And as I'm sure you well know, these are the sort of people who mostly work with REALLY vulnerable children with additional needs and all sorts of trauma.

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