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Trans Widows' Escape Committee 6: The Next Generation

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TinselAngel · 24/08/2023 22:30

Welcome to thread 6.

This is a support area for women who are, or have been, in unhappy relationships with male partners who are transitioning, or exploring their "gender identity"

If you are in that position-

  1. You are not alone
  2. It is not a situation that you should be expected to tolerate, let alone celebrate.
  3. There is always a way out, if you want it. The thread is called Escape Committee for a reason.

Remember: women talking to each other is a powerful weapon!

The main event this year outisde the thread will hopefully be the release of Vaishnavi Sundar's film about Trans Widows- Behind the Looking Glass

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TinselAngel · 12/01/2026 13:25

I still have new realisations about lies, over 10 years on.

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socialworker222 · 12/01/2026 07:38

You do a lot of reflecting with hindsight I found @Dadhouse . Unfortunately this becomes entirely Project Me, with families expected to fall in line without challenge. Glad you have a like-minded sibling to support you. I think it rather shows the fragility of this true authentic identity if any challenge, slip-up or different way of viewing it is so threatening. This sounds very controlling behaviour for you all to manage. But as I found, an awful lot of people will see it your way even if they don't say anything...

Dadhouse · 11/01/2026 16:57

How did Christmas go for everyone?
The journey in a year of our new trans family member has been quite dramatic. From a taking it slow, apparently understanding of occasional misnaming to full on anger at any slippage.
Like a cult, various family members have been cut off. There was an initial flurry a year ago with him getting in touch with relatives he hadn't previously had any direct contact with to explain the new him. Now they have already been dropped and conditions put on who can be invited to wider family events despite everyone basically responding 'you do you'

It's been a proper shit show for those hosting. Luckily, I and a sibling just remind our selves that he's always been a nasty piece of work in quite selfish ways so this is just a new variant. It was amazing what we excused in years gone by, as work or a partner or finding their way. It just becomes a bit clearer with decades to draw on.

Inshock55 · 11/01/2026 16:45

socialworker222 · 11/01/2026 07:53

I'm sorry this happened to you. I have one child who hates their father and describes themself as estranged and one who feels guilty but still says has no need to see him. Mine haven't seen theirs for nearly ten years now. Finding out must have been hideous. I hope you managed to make a good life for yourself despite this.

I'm just in total shock, still after 3 years. This man couldn't have been more 'manly', typical male aggressor, volatile temper, bully, HATED watching gay TV personalities and would sneer at them in real life.

And now this. Watches trannie porn, dresses (in private) with what I would call typical porn outfits, fake boobs, wigs, make up, 6 inch platforms.

He complains of being tired cos he looks after DM but I know he's up at all hours, at night,in his kit because he charges the ring doorbell in the kitchen, so I cop an eyeful when I get notifications for their doorbell. 🤮

Yes, I have a wonderful life, despite helping my parents sort their stuff out after DMs medical episode. My DH is amazing, so supportive so I thank my lucky stars for him.

I'd be the same as your kids if my DM wasn't around. I never want to see him again, but sadly I do. 😥

TinselAngel · 11/01/2026 15:19

TheAngryLioness · 11/01/2026 12:00

He is not out in public yet, just close family and friends but my neighbour yesterday asked me if he is inclined towards being feminine. They observed that he is carrying a women's purse in public now. The irony of that is honestly, that I do not carry a purse /handbag and neither does his mother. So wonder where this stereotypical image of a woman he gets from! Mind boggling !

Stereotypes, porn, and usually a woman in their past that they particularly admired and so try to imitate.

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TheAngryLioness · 11/01/2026 12:05

I am so sorry for what you and your mum had to go through. I have read your posts (virtual hug). My children are pre teens and as you might be aware these days in the schools and unis in the UK they make it look cool and inclusive. Celebrities supporting it and what not. I am 100% disgusted by all these trans propaganda.

TheAngryLioness · 11/01/2026 12:00

He is not out in public yet, just close family and friends but my neighbour yesterday asked me if he is inclined towards being feminine. They observed that he is carrying a women's purse in public now. The irony of that is honestly, that I do not carry a purse /handbag and neither does his mother. So wonder where this stereotypical image of a woman he gets from! Mind boggling !

socialworker222 · 11/01/2026 07:54

Poomie1975 · 07/01/2026 12:31

This is exactly what I am scared of, the escalation.
We've stopped having any kind of sexual relationship but as best friends, we make it work.
At least I don't have to put up with him showing me kink womens clothing anymore.
You can learn to live with it, but it comes at a price.

Everyone makes their own choice. You're not alone in staying and making that sacrifice. I couldn't do it and I hope you can still maintain your agreement and boundaries as this goes on.

socialworker222 · 11/01/2026 07:53

Inshock55 · 10/01/2026 21:05

I'm a chid of one of these men.

I'm 55; he's 82. I found out about his fetish around 3 years ago, at the time of when my DM had become physically disabled and bed/wheelchair bound, so had separate rooms.

And in no way, shape or form do I support him. He utterly disgusts me but I have to pretend all the time as he is primary carer for my DM.

I hate him.

I'm sorry this happened to you. I have one child who hates their father and describes themself as estranged and one who feels guilty but still says has no need to see him. Mine haven't seen theirs for nearly ten years now. Finding out must have been hideous. I hope you managed to make a good life for yourself despite this.

socialworker222 · 11/01/2026 07:49

TheAngryLioness · 10/01/2026 11:24

Did your children understand your position or did they support him? My children dont know yet but I am really anxious about it already. What if they support him and hate me for not accepting his delusions.
I know I am being selfish here but cant stop thinking that way. I am a worrier as a person.

I was worried that this would cause a rift between either my children themselves, or my children and me. Particularly at a time when being trans was heavily celebrated. However I was able to clearly tell my kids why I didn't want to stay, including why I didn't want my daughters growing up with such a sexist and retrograde model of what a 'woman' was, when they were older. At the time he managed entirely on his own to wreck contact by being self-absorbed, insensitive and frightening them (they found him 'creepy' to be around particularly to be in the bathroom and sleeping at his overnight). Even if your kids politically take his side you can present an entirely reasonable position without having to entirely expose what you really believe about whether he is a woman. It's a slow process, talking to kids as the years go by, and as with break-ups for other reasons, kids usually end up seeing who is the reliable, child-focussed grown-up, and it 100% of the time isn't these men. So I wouldn't worry, and would calmly stick to your position and be that great parent. That will be enough.

Inshock55 · 10/01/2026 21:05

TheAngryLioness · 10/01/2026 11:24

Did your children understand your position or did they support him? My children dont know yet but I am really anxious about it already. What if they support him and hate me for not accepting his delusions.
I know I am being selfish here but cant stop thinking that way. I am a worrier as a person.

I'm a chid of one of these men.

I'm 55; he's 82. I found out about his fetish around 3 years ago, at the time of when my DM had become physically disabled and bed/wheelchair bound, so had separate rooms.

And in no way, shape or form do I support him. He utterly disgusts me but I have to pretend all the time as he is primary carer for my DM.

I hate him.

Waitwhat23 · 10/01/2026 18:30

TinselAngel · 15/11/2025 15:09

I recently heard that my friend and fellow trans widow Jackie Mearns has died. She was a very brave woman.

This is her talk at a WPUK event:

I am sad to read this - I worked with Jackie many years ago and she was both funny and very encouraging to others.

SouthernTW · 10/01/2026 17:08

My children rejected their father and have not seen him in years including as his "new persona."

TinselAngel · 10/01/2026 14:43

TheAngryLioness · 10/01/2026 11:24

Did your children understand your position or did they support him? My children dont know yet but I am really anxious about it already. What if they support him and hate me for not accepting his delusions.
I know I am being selfish here but cant stop thinking that way. I am a worrier as a person.

Many children of transitioners see their father’s nonsense for what it is.

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TheAngryLioness · 10/01/2026 11:24

SouthernTW · 28/12/2025 23:14

I'm five plus years out now and find there are still some things I struggle to "get over," specifically the deception and the effect on my children. Each year is a bit easier though. The crying stage lasted many months for me. It's a complicated grief.

Give yourself grace.

Did your children understand your position or did they support him? My children dont know yet but I am really anxious about it already. What if they support him and hate me for not accepting his delusions.
I know I am being selfish here but cant stop thinking that way. I am a worrier as a person.

TheAngryLioness · 10/01/2026 11:20

Exactly the escalation is FAST! am surprised at the fast pace that this started escalating as soon as I found out. The boundaries that kept moving. It is awful.

TinselAngel · 07/01/2026 15:52

Poomie1975 · 07/01/2026 12:31

This is exactly what I am scared of, the escalation.
We've stopped having any kind of sexual relationship but as best friends, we make it work.
At least I don't have to put up with him showing me kink womens clothing anymore.
You can learn to live with it, but it comes at a price.

They always escalate.

Whether this will begin to change with transition no longer being considered to be as stunning and brave as it was in the recent past, remains to be seen.

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Poomie1975 · 07/01/2026 12:31

This is exactly what I am scared of, the escalation.
We've stopped having any kind of sexual relationship but as best friends, we make it work.
At least I don't have to put up with him showing me kink womens clothing anymore.
You can learn to live with it, but it comes at a price.

TinselAngel · 29/12/2025 15:35

TheAngryLioness · 26/12/2025 13:19

Hello, it will be a year soon that I found out about my ex. Its been around 4 months that we are separated. I still go.into.depresion and haven't been a single day that I haven't cried. How long will I suffer like this? I just feel exhausted physically and mentally. I am not enjoying life at all, I try to be strong but dont know if this will every stop.

4 months is nothing. It’s still very early days. It will gradually get better though, particularly as they can always be relied on to do more and more preposterous things that kill any love you have lingering for them.

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SouthernTW · 28/12/2025 23:14

I'm five plus years out now and find there are still some things I struggle to "get over," specifically the deception and the effect on my children. Each year is a bit easier though. The crying stage lasted many months for me. It's a complicated grief.

Give yourself grace.

socialworker222 · 28/12/2025 07:09

TheAngryLioness · 26/12/2025 13:19

Hello, it will be a year soon that I found out about my ex. Its been around 4 months that we are separated. I still go.into.depresion and haven't been a single day that I haven't cried. How long will I suffer like this? I just feel exhausted physically and mentally. I am not enjoying life at all, I try to be strong but dont know if this will every stop.

Talking to a friend recently I reflected on how long it took me to get over my marriage ending this way, far longer than I thought it 'should'. It's a shocking, lonely and fairly unique place to be, and all I can assure you is that you will move on from this and find your life again, and four months is very raw. I hope you have supportive people around you. Gradually you will find this fades, and you can start trying to think about what you want and need, and how to have a life again. So many of us on these threads have come out the other side, so give yourself time 💐

ZeldaFighter · 26/12/2025 16:15

TheAngryLioness · 26/12/2025 13:19

Hello, it will be a year soon that I found out about my ex. Its been around 4 months that we are separated. I still go.into.depresion and haven't been a single day that I haven't cried. How long will I suffer like this? I just feel exhausted physically and mentally. I am not enjoying life at all, I try to be strong but dont know if this will every stop.

I don't know much about losing a partner / relationship but Cruse Bereavement Care used to talk about not making major decisions within the first 2 years as you will still be grieving. We all move and heal at different rates and I magine I would still be grieving my relationship after a year.

It does and will get better. Life is full of joy and beauty - flowers, sunsets, children laughing, lovely food, a great joke. Feel your pain but also your joy - you will get to a place of more joy and less pain. Sending you lots of love ❤️

Jaffapedigree · 26/12/2025 15:55

Thank you 😊

TheAngryLioness · 26/12/2025 13:19

Hello, it will be a year soon that I found out about my ex. Its been around 4 months that we are separated. I still go.into.depresion and haven't been a single day that I haven't cried. How long will I suffer like this? I just feel exhausted physically and mentally. I am not enjoying life at all, I try to be strong but dont know if this will every stop.

TheAngryLioness · 25/12/2025 19:50

Merry Christmas and upwards and onwards. We are strong and these are weak men. Well done on getting out of the toxic abusive relationship. The coming days will be lonely and difficult. But this too shall pass xxxx Happy New Year mate xx

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