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ChokkaQuokka · 22/07/2023 10:19

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 10:09

5-0. Well done, Japan, showing the cheats up.

Indeed. But cue the gender supremacists saying “see? Zambia lost so there is no problem including males in women’s sports, no problem at all!” Every loss will be treated as proof that there is no advantage.

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 10:09

5-0. Well done, Japan, showing the cheats up.

pues · 22/07/2023 09:43

FIFA must be mightily relieved

ChokkaQuokka · 22/07/2023 09:29

@MattDamon
yes, the legislation doesn’t preclude FIFA setting rules that include males in women’s games, but neither does it require it.

what’s interesting is that Sport Australia tends to require inclusion of males in order to receive funding from them. True female-only sport is allowed but codes seem to think it isn’t. Thus, Riley Dennis injuring female players and anyone who complains gets offered reeducation, and AFL had to come up with some euphemistic rules about height and weight to stop Hannah Mouncey playing AFLW. When they could legally just say, this is a female only sport and we don’t have to include you.

Inamuddle36 · 22/07/2023 09:27

What a pity. I was hoping Zambia would win and then all the woke US players would have to discuss the fairness of BB’s participation .

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 09:01

pues · 22/07/2023 08:46

Zambia only have one plan- get the ball to BB. Hopefully they'll be going home soon.

If Japan can pull off a win, I have confidence Spain will finish them off next.

puffyisgood · 22/07/2023 08:58

Oh well. At least the man of the match award should be a foregone conclusion.

Zeugma · 22/07/2023 08:57

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 08:54

It was like this when they played Germany last week. Over-the-top gushing praise. If he was actually as good as they say, he'd be playing against other men. Instead, he has to cheat.

Exactly. And Banda leads the team off the pitch at half-time with the other players filing submissively behind. Every picture tells a story.

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 08:54

Zeugma · 22/07/2023 08:52

I couldn’t be less interested in football but out of curiosity I tuned in and saw Japan's goal just now. The commentary is clearly praising Banda to the skies as the star of the Zambian team and basically the one on the team to be feared. I wonder why that would be, hmm? 🤔

It was like this when they played Germany last week. Over-the-top gushing praise. If he was actually as good as they say, he'd be playing against other men. Instead, he has to cheat.

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 08:52

ChokkaQuokka · 22/07/2023 08:18

Despite the actions of the Gillard government (who repeatedly refuse to legislate marriage equality but pushed through gender identity everywhere when no discussion), Australia’s Sex Discrimination Act clause 42(1) still reads as follows.

(1) Nothing in Division 1 or 2 renders it unlawful to discriminate on the ground of sex, gender identity or intersex status by excluding persons from participation in any competitive sporting activity in which the strength, stamina or physique of competitors is relevant.

oh, and pregnancy discrimination explicitly says “pregnant woman”, voluntary bodies can exclude people of a particular sex and so on.

IANAL but including males in women’s and girls’ sports and other facilities in Australia has been entirely a choice.

link https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2023C00003

Can't speak for Australia but this inclusion of men at World Cup level is down to FIFA.

Zeugma · 22/07/2023 08:52

I couldn’t be less interested in football but out of curiosity I tuned in and saw Japan's goal just now. The commentary is clearly praising Banda to the skies as the star of the Zambian team and basically the one on the team to be feared. I wonder why that would be, hmm? 🤔

pues · 22/07/2023 08:46

Zambia only have one plan- get the ball to BB. Hopefully they'll be going home soon.

pues · 22/07/2023 08:22

Yes Japan! Or is it?
Oh no offside

ChokkaQuokka · 22/07/2023 08:18

Despite the actions of the Gillard government (who repeatedly refuse to legislate marriage equality but pushed through gender identity everywhere when no discussion), Australia’s Sex Discrimination Act clause 42(1) still reads as follows.

(1) Nothing in Division 1 or 2 renders it unlawful to discriminate on the ground of sex, gender identity or intersex status by excluding persons from participation in any competitive sporting activity in which the strength, stamina or physique of competitors is relevant.

oh, and pregnancy discrimination explicitly says “pregnant woman”, voluntary bodies can exclude people of a particular sex and so on.

IANAL but including males in women’s and girls’ sports and other facilities in Australia has been entirely a choice.

link https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2023C00003

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 08:02

Good to hear they at least mentioned it.

I'm cheering for Japan as loudly as I can at 08:00 AM. Yui Hasegawa is one of my fave WSL players (Man City).

pues · 22/07/2023 07:56

Well the bbc mentioned that Banda had to play in China due to high testosterone...

pues · 22/07/2023 06:52

Oh FFS

MattDamon · 22/07/2023 06:31

BBC mentioned Banda in passing yesterday and the presenter was gushing about 'her' skills, so I doubt it.

pues · 22/07/2023 06:23

Wonder if there will be any mention of the controversy. Somehow I doubt it...

MattDamon · 21/07/2023 21:53

FYI - Banda's first game in the WC is tomorrow (Sat) morning at 08:00 on BBC2 or iplayer.

KiteofUncertainty · 20/07/2023 22:08

Cheating is cheating, even if you don't win.

Cheating is cheating, whatever your ability level or the standard of the competition.

WickedSerious · 20/07/2023 19:48

Abhannmor · 20/07/2023 19:45

This is Megan Rapinoes last WC I think. Imagine if Zambia knocked the USA out. Though that is highly improbable. It would be sort of poetic...

Banda hat trick.

Abhannmor · 20/07/2023 19:45

This is Megan Rapinoes last WC I think. Imagine if Zambia knocked the USA out. Though that is highly improbable. It would be sort of poetic...

WickedSerious · 20/07/2023 19:37

pues · 20/07/2023 13:15

A lot of people covering their ears and going "nah nah nah who cares?"
All women should care about this cheating.

I've raised the issue on several football forums,people are surprisingly reluctant to discuss it.

I'll keep mentioning it though.

Toomanybikesinourhouse · 20/07/2023 19:10

That’s a good article by Oliver Brown. He really knows his stuff and he won’t let this rest now. It’s good to have scrutiny on football. They’ve been dodging this issue for years now and a bit of pressure is good

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