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BBC commissions new series based on Paris Lees autobiography - 'What it's like to be a girl'..

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 21/06/2023 10:33

This is the BBC's latest offering aimed at educating us on the lives of trans people and their struggles. Paris moved to Brighton and transitioned into a middle class media reporter for Vogue but note how the promo blurb shows exactly what the producers think of working class people from the North- who 'shuffle around like the living dead' -how inclusive of them.

It's a new millennium - Madonna, Moloko and Basement Jaxx top the charts, and there's a whole world to explore. But teenager Byron is stuck in a small working-class town that hasn’t been the same since the coal mine shut in the 80s. Sick of mam, sick of dad, sick of being beaten up for "talkin' like a poof". Sick of everyone shuffling about like the living dead, going on about kitchens they're too skint to do up and marriages they're too scared to leave. Byron needs to get away, and doesn't care how.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/what-it-feels-like-for-a-girl-bbc

BBC announces What It Feels Like For A Girl, a new drama inspired by the acclaimed memoir by Paris Lees

Joyful, frank and packed with memorable characters, What It Feels Like For A Girl is a journey of love and danger, self-discovery and self-destruction. Because to find yourself sometimes you need to lose yourself...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/what-it-feels-like-for-a-girl-bbc

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ArabeIIaScott · 23/06/2023 09:04

Sincere apologies if the story I posted was incorrect. It was posted in good faith, but I agree that there's not enough evidence to say one way or another if the claim was accurate.

Redebs · 23/06/2023 08:48

'What it's like to be a violent man who dresses like a girl'

There. Fixed it.

OhWhatMerryHellIsThis · 23/06/2023 08:44

Jaysus, this thread is like a sieve.

Someone is cross

DialSquare · 23/06/2023 08:36

Datun · 23/06/2023 07:45

I'm wondering if Lees will play themself.

The ultimate euphoria

Villagetoraiseachild · 23/06/2023 08:20

Ok, thanks for clarifying @Clymene .
@AgathaSpencerGregson , I believe no license required for radio....no need to cough up! But yes, 3 is a bastion and relief from 4....

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 08:19

The only reason to listen to radio 4 now if you are, like me, middle aged and middle class, is if you like regular reminders of what an awful person you are and how dreadful your country is. I already know all that, because contrary to the claims of fashionable commentators today, I was taught about the empire and slavery.
I was also taught biology, rather well as it happens. So the beeb can shove the lees programme up its fat arse.

Slothtoes · 23/06/2023 08:19

There is still good work being done at the BBC. Sanchia berg reports on the family courts, Hannah Barnes. But my god there’s a lot of dross.

This- and Deborah Cohen the journalist who worked with Hannah Barnes at Newsnight.
The commercial alternatives really seriously aren’t better- do people think Netflix or Sky aren’t captured? At least the BBC has pockets of resistance and it is answerable to Parliament.

I think the class bias in BBC drama commissioning is clear though- Lees’ caricatures of whole working class communities as so different to special him sound completely obnoxious. It’s like the blanket ‘cis’ term- viewing other people as not full human beings with minds. Incredibly narcissistic to assume that you know what other people around you are doing and how they are thinking all the time and to lump them all in as one horrible mass. A major red flag.

SunnyEgg · 23/06/2023 08:12

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 08:07

Yes, I’m still coughing up for radio 3 (4 is down the tubes). Slight derail but I switched over from today to stig and asma on times radio yesterday and I was really struck by how much more lively and challenging the discussions and interviews were. The only today presenter left who has any vim is Justin Webb.

Same here I listen to Times radio over R4 a lot of the time. They also don’t interrupt as much

I still like some scientific programmes on R4 but R6 I’d find very hard to go without

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 08:07

SunnyEgg · 23/06/2023 08:03

The BBC are pretty much captured at this point

I rely on their radio but struggling to view them well

Yes, I’m still coughing up for radio 3 (4 is down the tubes). Slight derail but I switched over from today to stig and asma on times radio yesterday and I was really struck by how much more lively and challenging the discussions and interviews were. The only today presenter left who has any vim is Justin Webb.

SunnyEgg · 23/06/2023 08:03

The BBC are pretty much captured at this point

I rely on their radio but struggling to view them well

Wimpod · 23/06/2023 08:01

For fucks fucking sake.

😒

There still must be a hell of a lot of people at the BBC hell bent on convincing us this is all fine.

Datun · 23/06/2023 07:59

Paris Lees was never a girl.

Always a girl, don't forget. Trans kids know as young as two.

So, effeminate boy growing up in a homophobic environment ... decides he must be really female? Doesn’t that rather prove the GC point?

Yes, it does.

As the Tavi whistleblower said, soon there'll be no gay kids left.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 07:58

EdithStourton · 23/06/2023 07:55

How the hell can the BBC put out shit like this with a straight face?

Paris Lees was never a girl.

It makes me so sad that our supposedly neutral national broadcaster has sunk to this. They're en route to becoming a total disgrace.

There is still good work being done at the BBC. Sanchia berg reports on the family courts, Hannah Barnes. But my god there’s a lot of dross.

SunnyEgg · 23/06/2023 07:57

OhHolyJesus · 21/06/2023 10:59

The BBC is just trolling women. What a nightmare it must be to work there.

Well the title of the show is wrong

Agree on the trolling, and the BBC is probably not diverse at all when it comes to thinking

EdithStourton · 23/06/2023 07:55

How the hell can the BBC put out shit like this with a straight face?

Paris Lees was never a girl.

It makes me so sad that our supposedly neutral national broadcaster has sunk to this. They're en route to becoming a total disgrace.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 07:52

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 21/06/2023 10:33

This is the BBC's latest offering aimed at educating us on the lives of trans people and their struggles. Paris moved to Brighton and transitioned into a middle class media reporter for Vogue but note how the promo blurb shows exactly what the producers think of working class people from the North- who 'shuffle around like the living dead' -how inclusive of them.

It's a new millennium - Madonna, Moloko and Basement Jaxx top the charts, and there's a whole world to explore. But teenager Byron is stuck in a small working-class town that hasn’t been the same since the coal mine shut in the 80s. Sick of mam, sick of dad, sick of being beaten up for "talkin' like a poof". Sick of everyone shuffling about like the living dead, going on about kitchens they're too skint to do up and marriages they're too scared to leave. Byron needs to get away, and doesn't care how.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/what-it-feels-like-for-a-girl-bbc

So, effeminate boy growing up in a homophobic environment (and how the beeb moves an opportunity to portray working class northerners as knuckle dragging mouth breathers) decides he must be really female? Doesn’t that rather prove the GC point? What am I missing?

hamstersarse · 23/06/2023 07:48

Always heartening to come on a thread and see so many deletions. Mumsnet displaying their commitment to freedom of speech ✌🏼

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/06/2023 07:45

The BBC reading the room as always

still the sunlight will be strong!

Datun · 23/06/2023 07:45

I'm wondering if Lees will play themself.

WaterThyme · 23/06/2023 07:39

Anyone know who will be playing the part of Paris Lees?

It would be outrageous from a feminist point of view for him to be played by a woman.

From the point of view of the trans community not having a transwoman take the part would be wrong.

Can we hope for Eddie Izzard?

Clymene · 22/06/2023 18:20

To be fair, the deleted posts linked Lees to a murder they had nothing to do with. I saw that rumour floating around on Twitter the other day.

Villagetoraiseachild · 22/06/2023 17:53

Deletion Central here we go again, by posters whose opinions I have come to respect over a period of time as being well informed and worth taking the time to read.
I wont be watching this proposed programme
I'm so over the bbc falling all over themselves to kiss the pinky, bluey, whitey ring.

Datun · 22/06/2023 17:32

The problem with writing a book and getting a TV programme done, is that people will do their own research.

That's why I, for one, am perfectly happy for these programs to be made.

And I don't think Mumsnet moderators, despite being all powerful and obvs omniscient, will quite have the reach to delete social media entirely.

ImaniMumsnet · 22/06/2023 16:23

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dimorphism · 22/06/2023 09:50

Bloody BBC. Let's not forget they enabled Savile for years, don't ever expect anything but misogyny.

Anyway, at least this thread reminded me I needed to repeat my declaration I don't need a TV license. They'll never get a penny of my money ever again. Next step, move the parents onto on demand only.