Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

BBC commissions new series based on Paris Lees autobiography - 'What it's like to be a girl'..

112 replies

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 21/06/2023 10:33

This is the BBC's latest offering aimed at educating us on the lives of trans people and their struggles. Paris moved to Brighton and transitioned into a middle class media reporter for Vogue but note how the promo blurb shows exactly what the producers think of working class people from the North- who 'shuffle around like the living dead' -how inclusive of them.

It's a new millennium - Madonna, Moloko and Basement Jaxx top the charts, and there's a whole world to explore. But teenager Byron is stuck in a small working-class town that hasn’t been the same since the coal mine shut in the 80s. Sick of mam, sick of dad, sick of being beaten up for "talkin' like a poof". Sick of everyone shuffling about like the living dead, going on about kitchens they're too skint to do up and marriages they're too scared to leave. Byron needs to get away, and doesn't care how.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/what-it-feels-like-for-a-girl-bbc

BBC announces What It Feels Like For A Girl, a new drama inspired by the acclaimed memoir by Paris Lees

Joyful, frank and packed with memorable characters, What It Feels Like For A Girl is a journey of love and danger, self-discovery and self-destruction. Because to find yourself sometimes you need to lose yourself...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/what-it-feels-like-for-a-girl-bbc

OP posts:
Thread gallery
10
WhateverTheWeather22 · 29/05/2025 13:17

Screen shot of the start and end of the review.
I enjoyed reading it! (The review, not the book).

BBC commissions new series based on  Paris Lees autobiography - 'What it's like to be a girl'..
BBC commissions new series based on  Paris Lees autobiography - 'What it's like to be a girl'..
BBC commissions new series based on  Paris Lees autobiography - 'What it's like to be a girl'..
Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/05/2025 11:30

I think this is going to bring rather more unhelpful sunlight

HarperStern · 29/05/2025 11:25

That wasn't the teaching mentor's own opinion, just their reading of the local mindset btw!

HarperStern · 29/05/2025 11:24

I did teaching practice in Hucknall in 1991 and what it felt like for a girl there was not being allowed to go into sixth form because there was no point girls getting educations apparently (the words of my teaching mentor). Never taught such a boy-heavy group in an arts & hums subject since.

zippertydooda · 29/05/2025 11:12

I should imagine the ratings are going to be epically bad for this one.

I doubt the people from the North 'shuffling about like the living dead, going on about kitchens they're too skint to do up and marriages they're too scared to leave.' will be watching.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/05/2025 10:45

I imagine it will be presented in a highly sympathetic way to Paris.

ArabeIIaScott · 29/05/2025 09:01

dubaichocolate · 28/05/2025 19:16

Will Paris’s convictions be revealed in the show? They’ve been very careful to get them scrubbed from the internet.

It's fictionalised, so 'based on' a true story. I'm going to wager the unpleasant truths will be sanitised and/or skipped over.

dubaichocolate · 28/05/2025 19:16

Will Paris’s convictions be revealed in the show? They’ve been very careful to get them scrubbed from the internet.

JellySaurus · 28/05/2025 15:06

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/05/2025 10:21

They were frothing on Reddit the other day as apparently the lead is played by a “cis man”, the horror!

Is he? I thought 'they' was non-binary Hmm

Are they frothing that one of the drag queens is played by a female actor? (I can't tell whether Sasha is meant to be a trans-identified man or a DQ, not that the difference between a TIM and a DQ is particularly clear, either.)

TheOtherRaven · 28/05/2025 12:04

Likely to be very mixed opinions on what the benefits may be from the general public getting a wider insight into the criminal offenses and beliefs of this person and how this reflects on men with trans identities. Particularly at this time when there's an attempt to argue that it's a terrible thing to permit women to say no and have boundaries from them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/05/2025 10:21

They were frothing on Reddit the other day as apparently the lead is played by a “cis man”, the horror!

Clymene · 23/06/2023 10:35

Joan Smith is good on this: unherd.com/thepost/paris-lees-doesnt-know-what-it-feels-like-for-a-girl/

hamstersarse · 23/06/2023 10:21

SunnyEgg · 23/06/2023 08:03

The BBC are pretty much captured at this point

I rely on their radio but struggling to view them well

It really is a shame. We need a reliable broadcaster, and just don't have it.

Groupthink is such a dangerous thing

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 09:48

nettie434 · 23/06/2023 09:44

The BBC aren't responsible for the series title, which is the same as Paris Lees' autobiography. Paris Lees will be involved in the production and has presumably sanctioned the blurb, which is certainly not kind. I suspect it will be an expensive mistake but I don't feel outraged that some of the licence fee is going on a dramatisation of what was a fairly successful autobiography in commercial terms.

The BBC is a public service broadcaster, not a commercial one, and it has duties of impartiality in relation to contentious issues. So I’m afraid I do think it’s inappropriate- especially at a time when it is refusing to fund things which are much more clearly within the public service remit, such as the BBC singers.

nettie434 · 23/06/2023 09:44

The BBC aren't responsible for the series title, which is the same as Paris Lees' autobiography. Paris Lees will be involved in the production and has presumably sanctioned the blurb, which is certainly not kind. I suspect it will be an expensive mistake but I don't feel outraged that some of the licence fee is going on a dramatisation of what was a fairly successful autobiography in commercial terms.

Darkmodus · 23/06/2023 09:35

I won’t open this because I don’t want to be traumatised, but fgs bbc- WAKE UP!!!

Or this one about how much fun it is to be fucked by four men at once: www.vice.com/en/article/bn5vwq/being-a-slag-is-a-virtue-not-a-vice-paris-lees

Why I'm So Proud to Be a 'Promiscuous' Slut

Life is like a cock. You have to grab it with both hands.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bn5vwq/being-a-slag-is-a-virtue-not-a-vice-paris-lees

Darkmodus · 23/06/2023 09:34

Redebs · 23/06/2023 08:48

'What it's like to be a violent man who dresses like a girl'

There. Fixed it.

this.

i used think the bbc were wonderful -now not so much.

Rewarding violence…

SunnyEgg · 23/06/2023 09:32

Redebs · 23/06/2023 08:48

'What it's like to be a violent man who dresses like a girl'

There. Fixed it.

I don’t know about the history but if so then yes this is more apt

And takes the shine off

Clymene · 23/06/2023 09:30

I suspect there's been some internet cleansing which makes the facts of the crime hard to find.

Here are some of Paris' own words about 'being a girl':

www.vice.com/en/article/vdqm89/everything-ive-learned-about-sex-paris-lees - this one tells us how hot it it to have sex when you're crying

Or this one which is about how all the women who object to prostitution are white? www.vice.com/en/article/nn97vk/ban-sex-work-fuck-off-white-feminism-paris-lees-807

This one about Fallon Fox{s right to nearly kill women: www.vice.com/en/article/3b7j3j/fallon-fox-is-a-woman-get-over-it-925

Or this one about how much fun it is to be fucked by four men at once: www.vice.com/en/article/bn5vwq/being-a-slag-is-a-virtue-not-a-vice-paris-lees

Or finally this one, which is all about being a boy: www.vice.com/en/article/wd4pjn/paris-lees-what-are-we-going-to-do-about-the-lost-boys-325

Lees entire back catalogue in Vice is dripping with hatred and disdain for women who care about other women's exploitation by men. And loads about how much fun it is to be objectified. So far, so predictable.

If you want to see who Lees really is, watch the Island reality show Lees lasted a couple of days before asking to go home, mainly crying and sulking and doing fuck all, pissing off everyone. Just another tedious self obsessed narc.

ginghamstarfish · 23/06/2023 09:27

So a male former criminal and prostitute then? So glad I stopped paying licence fee some years ago, the BBC is beyond a joke.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 09:26

And of course Monty Don on Friday evenings.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 23/06/2023 09:24

Villagetoraiseachild · 23/06/2023 08:20

Ok, thanks for clarifying @Clymene .
@AgathaSpencerGregson , I believe no license required for radio....no need to cough up! But yes, 3 is a bastion and relief from 4....

There’s also Canal Boat Diaries and Still Game though. I’m still clinging on via IPlayer! Not for much longer tho I suspect

OldCrone · 23/06/2023 09:09

Always a girl, don't forget. Trans kids know as young as two.

Younger than that. They know even before they're born. Remember this thread?
.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4652020-news-article-boston-childrens-hospital-claim-babies-know-they-are-trans-in-the-womb

For more "proof" that babies know they're trans before they can talk, google Diane Ehrensaft for a video of her talking about a baby boy unsnapping his onesie to send a "gender message" that he's a girl.