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Would you be concerned... 4 year old "trans"

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Ncdforthisagain · 12/05/2023 23:03

Not sure I'm posting in the right place but would welcome advice as something that is sitting very uncomfortably with me.

I met a mum recently through mutual friends at a kids activity class. She seemed nice enough and very friendly and chatty. Her son is 5 and he is a lovely child. He was wearing a sparkly top and clip on earrings the first few times I met them - all good, he's only 5 and who am I to judge. However his mum dropped very casually in conversation that she thinks he has "trans issues". Again, I thought it was a bit of an odd comment but kept that thought to myself. More recently though, it now appears that the mum has transitioned the child to living as a girl, has changed his name and is actively referring to the child as her "daughter", "she" etc. The child is so young and it just strikes me as terribly damaging to do this to a tiny child. I have 2 young DC myself and I'm actually reeling that a parent could willingly do this. I'm prepared to get shot down (maybe unlikely on this board) but it just has my alarm bells ringing.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 12/05/2023 23:56

Irresponsible fuck-witted parenting which is actually abusive to the child. All dressed up as being progressive. It’s deeply shocking.

Poor kid.

GardeningIsNotMe · 12/05/2023 23:55

My DS loved wearing “Clip Clop” shoes and Princess dresses from the dressing up box when he was 5. He’s 30 now. A builder, rugby player and hands on dad.

Why on earth are some parents convinced their boys are really girls? - Because they are encouraged to wear sparkly clothing and nail varnish? Why do we give this nonsense head space? 🤷🏻‍♀️

My DD always chose a tshirt and dungarees to wear - and always blue or brown. Her choice from the dressing up box was a cowboy hat or space helmet. She was a little girl then and she’s a beautiful woman and amazing mother now.

I have no time for parents who advocate for their children to be anything other than what they are. Absolute nonsense!

WhiteFire · 12/05/2023 23:53

I know of a child who was transitioned at a similar age, I am not sure of the situation now as I was outed as a terrible TERF in a conversation that was nothing to do with the mother or child when I objected to the term Cis, and was swiftly blocked on Facebook.

I think this particular mother fitted into another category, they have sons and being the super right on parents not just allow their children to have a range and choice of toys and clothes but also actively steer the child towards the traditional girly sparkly stuff, which being colourful and sparkly and swishy etc is the top choice. The child starts school, peers then tell the child that xyz is for girls, child preferring xyz decide that this means they are actually a girl. Parents being right on embrace this and immediately start a social transition.

I am not saying that small children shouldn't have access to a range of clothes, toys, activities etc, but I think there is actually a push towards a narrow focus. So they do all pink but it is ok because it is for a boy.

(I find it really hard to explain my thoughts on this but I hope others understand what I mean)

BeverlyBrook · 12/05/2023 23:45

OP I'd say your instincts are absolutely spot on. This is so utterly wrong. The poor child. The mother needs to have some therapy.

DiscoBeat · 12/05/2023 23:44

It would be so much better if the mother could embrace the fact that boys can wear pink sparkly things whenever they like without having to actually turn female. It would help for a start if shops stopped having designated 'boy' and 'girl' sections for their clothing.

thisuser · 12/05/2023 23:39

there is absolutely no way a five year old can understand this at all.. how utterley sad. the times we are living in are so scary.. i have seen countless videos emerging from America on how grown trans people are LAP DANCING on young children, couldn’t be aged over 5.. sickening absolutely sickening. sorry, i’ve gone off on one..

GrumpyPanda · 12/05/2023 23:34

Jesus wept. That poor, poor child.

Comeonskinnylove · 12/05/2023 23:27

I despair. I have a child a similar age and there's no way he would understand any of this nonsense. Very damaging imo.

SpicyMoth · 12/05/2023 23:25

Yeah, doesn't sound the best decision to me to be honest - but that's me.
You can't control how other's choose to parent or guide their children, I just hope that it remains social for as long as possible.
I don't see what's wrong with teaching kids to love themselves as they are.
Just craziness.

ArcticSkewer · 12/05/2023 23:21

Just ignore her, she is obviously nuts.

One of my boys was full - pink, dresses, sparkles - at that age. I just thought he might grow up gay. Ah the innocence of the early 2000s .

He's actually a straight man these days.

Apollo441 · 12/05/2023 23:21

Welcome to the board. No one will shoot you down. We are all worried and concerned about this trend. The interim Cass report also says social transitioning is not a neutral act. How anyone can believe in transexual children us beyond me.

elliejjtiny · 12/05/2023 23:17

I know some will disagree but I don't think a child that young is capable of making that decision. My ds is nearly 9. He knows he is a boy but he also knows that he can wear his pink leggings if he wants or hair clips etc.

NotTerfNorCis · 12/05/2023 23:16

Very harmful. I doubt he'll look back on this fondly.

I saw a documentary a while ago about 'trans kids'. There was a little boy who was convinced he was a girl. His parents, devout Christians, took him to a 'trans church' where he was feted by adult transwomen. But after he started school he reverted back to identifying as a boy, and he never wanted to be a girl again.

Hagosaurus · 12/05/2023 23:11

I agree with you, sadly for the child, I think the issues sit firmly with his parents. He’s hardly the only little boy who likes sparkly tops, high heels, nail varnish etc. Not conforming to sex-based stereotypes is allowed, and doesn’t require trans-ing away

Ncdforthisagain · 12/05/2023 23:05

Sorry title says 4, the child is 5 ...not that it makes that much difference

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