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The strange reaction to the death of a child rapist drag queen

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 11/03/2023 07:03

An article by James Esses on the funeral of Darren Moore -a drag queen who was murdered in Cardiff city centre.
Although Moore had a prior history of convictions for child sexual abuse the Council closed off roads in central Cardiff for the funeral and news coverage has been very positive about him.

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Boiledbeetle · 26/03/2023 14:36

Nkj8912 · 26/03/2023 14:14

It worries me the access these sorts of people have to vulnerable people and young children, with as little as a name change, they have a brand new identity.

Surely it's not that easy ?

It's increasingly becoming clear that that more or less is the case!

Nkj8912 · 26/03/2023 14:14

It worries me the access these sorts of people have to vulnerable people and young children, with as little as a name change, they have a brand new identity.

Surely it's not that easy ?

Nkj8912 · 26/03/2023 14:11

In all honesty I have not in depth done my research, the articles iv read don't explain a lot, from what iv found he was a minor and arrested on 4 counts of rape on one child, im guessing that child was young, as I honestly can't see a conviction if they were around the same age.

If that was the case he most definitely was a child rapist 15 is old enough to know rite from wrong, clearly they've protected the victim and not released details about him.

I'm not surprised in the amount of support for him, it's not uncommon for people to turn a blind eye and continue to support pedophiles, it took almost 30 years to convict serial sex offender R.kelly and people still support him, for years people have been turning a blind eye to this sort of behaviour.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 26/03/2023 13:39

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/03/2023 13:37

Going against the grain to thank @Nkj8912 for bumping this thread.
Aida H D, the drag queen who's making a lot of money "reading" to children in libraries & schools was an active supporter of this paedophile before his death. This is a useful opportunity to remind people of the interests of this person who is feted by so many who ignore the need to safeguard children:

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/08/07/aida-h-dee-and-the-drag-queen-story-hour-summer-tour/

I defer to your excellent counter argument!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/03/2023 13:37

Going against the grain to thank @Nkj8912 for bumping this thread.
Aida H D, the drag queen who's making a lot of money "reading" to children in libraries & schools was an active supporter of this paedophile before his death. This is a useful opportunity to remind people of the interests of this person who is feted by so many who ignore the need to safeguard children:

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/08/07/aida-h-dee-and-the-drag-queen-story-hour-summer-tour/

Aida H Dee - Safe Schools Alliance UK

We have written to the Children's Commissioner for England to ask her to prevent a summer tour of libraries by drag queen Aida H Dee...

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/08/07/aida-h-dee-and-the-drag-queen-story-hour-summer-tour

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 26/03/2023 13:19

NewBootsAndRanty · 26/03/2023 13:16

U ok hun?

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Maybe Nkj8912 will inbox u the deets?

NewBootsAndRanty · 26/03/2023 13:16

U ok hun?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 26/03/2023 13:15

Why would MN offer the advanced search function if we aren’t supposed to
use it?

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Nkj8912 · 26/03/2023 13:11

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 26/03/2023 10:27

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2023 09:41

I'll wheel it out.

I can see that gif getting rather a lot of use on these boards!

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2023 09:41

I'll wheel it out.

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 26/03/2023 09:28

First post since 2018 bumps up an old thread to stan for a Rapist, calls a poster on the feminist board who asks if they have something worthwhile to say a ‘Karen’?

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Nkj8912 · 26/03/2023 09:16

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IcakethereforeIam · 26/03/2023 02:55

Wow, just wow!

NoSweat · 26/03/2023 02:47

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Redbird87 · 26/03/2023 00:29

Is it better to rape the same kid four times than it is to rape four separate ones or something? Is that supposed to be less shitty?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 25/03/2023 23:16

Ok.

Any particular reason you need to make a statement about multiple rape charges on a thread that’s a fortnight old and dropped off the front page ages ago? A statement you need to make in two consecutive posts?

Got some info about Darren Haydn Meah-Moore (nee Sewell) to share with us? Or did you just randomly stumble across this thread and feel the need to comment for no reason at all?

Nkj8912 · 25/03/2023 22:59

You can be charged 4 times for the rape of one person onb4 seperate occasions. It's a fact. Just stating that.

Nkj8912 · 25/03/2023 22:57

I would like to add that you can be charged on 4 acts of rape with the same person, meaning you raped them 4 seperate times without their consent , im not here to claim or argue anything.

Shelefttheweb · 12/03/2023 12:10

For those trying to justify it by suggesting they were both 16 but only the older one was prosecuted and accused of rape because of homophobia and unequal age of consent at the time, rather than he raped up to four young children. Why do you think he was still on the sex offenders register?

Moonicorn · 11/03/2023 23:24

Badbudgeter · 11/03/2023 07:24

It is outrageous. I struggle with the cognitive dissonance.

child rapist=bad
drag queen (trans umbrella)= good

Its like there is a quasi religious cleansing that occurs. You enter as your cis caterpillar self and emerge as your beautiful butterfly true self, free of the sins of the past.

During Isla Bryson’s trial her solicitor (advocate) said that if you believe she is trans then you should acquit (paraphrasing). It’s like the act of someone shimmying into a dress or pink leggings should absolve them. As they were vulnerable /confused/ forced to by the hated cocoon of toxic masculinity that they have now shed.

I feel for his victims. It’s an incredibly strong thing to do to stand up to your abuser and see him convicted. To see him being lauded as a loved public figure must hurt.

👏🏻

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 11/03/2023 23:23

DessertsForAll · 11/03/2023 23:03

I have explained many times why I commented. I hate inaccurate comments posted as fact. Some people were saying that people were not being prosecuted for breaking the unequal age of consent when they were, right up till it was changed.
And the point is it was homophobic. Because these were consenting people whose sex would have been legal if they were male and female couple.

I don't think anyone did say that.

I said that given the political climate then, no-one would have prosecuted an underage boy for having willing activity for a similarly aged peer, and your posts did read as if you were replying to me.

So if that's what you thought I'd said, it explains a lot. Personally, I hate people not bothering to read my posts. We all have our little quirks.

I have reminded myself of what I did say, and it is this. Note the bold clause, which was there to start with. I did not say "we stopped prosecuting men". It would make no sense to do so. That was why there was a campaign to drop the age to 16. There wouldn't have been if the law wasn't being enforced ever. Goddess give me strength.

Me: That was ended in 1967, provided the men were over 21. Under John Major, an amendment was put forward to drop the age of consent for males with males to 16. It failed, and the age of consent was dropped to 18 in 1994 as a compromise.

You just now: And the point is it was homophobic. Because these were consenting people whose sex would have been legal if they were male and female couple.

Are you perhaps on a different thread? Sewell's acts WOULD NOT have been legal if the victims were girls. It is illegal and wrong to rape female children and male children. Consensual sex between adults is not relevant, whether it was criminalised or not.

DessertsForAll · 11/03/2023 23:03

I have explained many times why I commented. I hate inaccurate comments posted as fact. Some people were saying that people were not being prosecuted for breaking the unequal age of consent when they were, right up till it was changed.
And the point is it was homophobic. Because these were consenting people whose sex would have been legal if they were male and female couple.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 11/03/2023 22:17

DessertsForAll · 11/03/2023 21:42

@NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision It was still happening until the law was changed. Those three men won at the European Court but it still was not enacted. A "compromise" of 18 instead of 21 was passed. So even then it was not an equal age of consent.

What point are you trying to make here? Genuinely asking.

You have replied to a post of mine saying it was dropped to 18 in 1994, by... telling me it was dropped to 18 in 1994. You have repeatedly posted that men over the legal age of consent were prosecuted for having younger, willing partners, as if it is relevant to the purported scenario of a child under the age of consent being prosecuted for mutual willing activity (and sentenced to a young offender's institution. Three years was it?)

I'm sure men over the age of consent were prosecuted. That is the point of an age of consent. How is that relevant?!

I'll note here that you mentioned that in 1991, 169 men who’d had sex with another man were convicted of underage sex in England and Wales, and 13 of them sent to prison.

Only 13 men out of 169 men over 21 with younger partners.

How strange that this 14 year old got a custodial sentence in 1999, and 156 adult men in 1991 didn't.

Clymene · 11/03/2023 21:58

And the dates.