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Even cosy ITV cop drama VERA is at it now…

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LynneBenfield · 05/02/2023 21:33

It has been giving the vibes for a while with a subtly (unspoken), possibly NB police officer side character and a few other bits and bobs. However they’ve laid just laid their cards clearly on the table. This week’s story involves a conversation with one of the side characters (a young male identifying as a girl) re domestic violence and use of women’s refuges. The character explains that they were devastated to be moved to a men’s refuge because someone complained that he was a threat to the women there. Cue Vera exclaiming, something along the lines of “Oh, a lass shouldn’t be with the men, pet”…

I know. Serves me right for watching such dross but it shows how it’s all just creeping in. The campaign for sympathy and the normalisation of intrusion into our women’s spaces.

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MTCoffeePot · 05/02/2023 22:50

Was this episode based an Ann Cleves novel? I thought the whole episode didn’t work. I thought the male person in the dress was positively creepy and their exchanges with Vera were unconvincing.

bringmethehorizontal · 05/02/2023 22:44

They did it in Marvellous Mrs Maisel too, a bloke in a dodgy wig going on about how tough it is to be a female journalist, wink-wink 🙄

Hellocatshome · 05/02/2023 22:19

Pretty sure Vera would not react like that in real life (yes I know its a fictional drama but hopefully you know what I mean) it seemed really jarring coming from her.

LynneBenfield · 05/02/2023 22:18

Exactly @Faffertea. Not only is it just blatantly obvious, gaslighting propaganda, agenda pushing nonsense by the writers, it’s also totally at odds with the actual character’s cultural backstory and likely beliefs.

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ArabellaScott · 05/02/2023 22:11

FFS.

I liked Ann Cleeves' books, too.

MissyB1 · 05/02/2023 21:55

When Vera said that about the men’s refuge I shouted at the TV “that’s no lass!”

And I don’t think there’s any way Vera would believe trans women should be in women’s refuges.

DH actually said “this will be on your mumsnet thing” 😁

Faffertea · 05/02/2023 21:55

No quite clearly male.

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 21:50

Was the young person played by a female actress? I ask because in other crime dramas, Law and Order SVU for example, a sympathetic transwoman character has often been played by a woman. I think using an actress rather than an actor helps the audience suspend belief.

LynneBenfield · 05/02/2023 21:43

It’s tonight’s episode btw (5/2/23), s12, ep2 “For the grace of God”

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Faffertea · 05/02/2023 21:42

I’ve just seen it too. Like no nonsense, grew up on a farm, became a senior police officer at a time when sexism was even worse than it is now wouldn’t know what a woman is and how an obviously male person could retraumatise women in a hostel.
The tutting at the ‘they said I’m not a real woman’ line 🙄🤦‍♀️.

Although given that this was filmed months back, before recent Scottish events I wonder if it would be the same line now.