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Even cosy ITV cop drama VERA is at it now…

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LynneBenfield · 05/02/2023 21:33

It has been giving the vibes for a while with a subtly (unspoken), possibly NB police officer side character and a few other bits and bobs. However they’ve laid just laid their cards clearly on the table. This week’s story involves a conversation with one of the side characters (a young male identifying as a girl) re domestic violence and use of women’s refuges. The character explains that they were devastated to be moved to a men’s refuge because someone complained that he was a threat to the women there. Cue Vera exclaiming, something along the lines of “Oh, a lass shouldn’t be with the men, pet”…

I know. Serves me right for watching such dross but it shows how it’s all just creeping in. The campaign for sympathy and the normalisation of intrusion into our women’s spaces.

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SinnerBoy · 06/02/2023 15:18

MadameKali · Today 06:51

Vera is still filmed in the North East btw not the Czech Republic.

I'm glad to hear that, at least; they've filmed in our street twice and on the seafront at the bottom loads of times. I love it when I recognise places, especially when they are on the cliff at Seaton Sluice, then immediately on Blast Beach, at Seaham!

bringmethehorizontal · 06/02/2023 15:13

Tezza1 · 06/02/2023 02:33

Could you tell me the episode, or the series that this is in? I've watched all the episodes and can't remember this. It's so out of context for the 1950/60s that I can't see how I could have missed it.

Unless I completely blocked it out because it annoyed me so much, and also I must admit that I found the most recent series a bit ho hum. I still persevered, and will continue to persevere when Series 5 appears because of the truly fabulous clothes.

L. Roy Dunham from the latest series.

LynneBenfield · 06/02/2023 10:32

Coyoacan · 06/02/2023 02:19

This is the only argument the TRAs have, sentimental tosh in TV series, documentaries and magazines, but it is really, really effective

Absolutely, it’s propaganda

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zanahoria · 06/02/2023 07:48

"Th,is is the only argument the TRAs have, sentimental tosh in TV series, documentaries and magazines, but it is really, really effective"

Yet it only goes so far as we have in Scotland.

When the cold light of day hits it is exposed for the hogwash that it is.

user1465390476 · 06/02/2023 07:20

This will have nothing to do with Ann Cleves and everything to do with the scriptwriter. Absolutely no surprise at all this was inserted into this particular episode of Vera.

MadameKali · 06/02/2023 06:51

Knew there'd be a thread here. "Fuck off" shouted very loudly at the TV last night. As someone said up thread, this will have been filmed ages ago and I do wonder if they might regret it after the recent Scottish nonsense.

But once again we get a fairly feminine trans character which just cements in people's minds the "vulnerable, born in the wrong body, was always meant to be a girl" type of transwoman. When most of us know the reality. And given that the character was supposed to be about the same age as the daughter (15), even though they clearly were much older, would definitely still be intact. Just not sure what the point of that character was, it felt shoehorned in.

Vera is still filmed in the North East btw not the Czech Republic.

Isthisexpected · 06/02/2023 04:24

I won't be watching any more Mrs Maisel either then.

Tezza1 · 06/02/2023 02:33

bringmethehorizontal · 05/02/2023 22:44

They did it in Marvellous Mrs Maisel too, a bloke in a dodgy wig going on about how tough it is to be a female journalist, wink-wink 🙄

Could you tell me the episode, or the series that this is in? I've watched all the episodes and can't remember this. It's so out of context for the 1950/60s that I can't see how I could have missed it.

Unless I completely blocked it out because it annoyed me so much, and also I must admit that I found the most recent series a bit ho hum. I still persevered, and will continue to persevere when Series 5 appears because of the truly fabulous clothes.

Coyoacan · 06/02/2023 02:19

This is the only argument the TRAs have, sentimental tosh in TV series, documentaries and magazines, but it is really, really effective

Precipice · 06/02/2023 01:03

zen1 · 05/02/2023 23:54

At least Call the Midwife should be safe, being as gender woo had not been conceived of then (no pun intended!).

Don't be so sure... That's 1950s and 1960s and the Mrs Maisel episode mentioned upthread is set it in 1960 and actually has Midge go to the news office and , finding out who L. Roy Dunham is, say "but you're a woman. And you've always been a woman". To a male actor.

inkjet · 06/02/2023 00:01

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/02/2023 22:51

Thanks for this. I d recorded it, I’ll delete it now.

poor Vera, poor Brenda….i think the original in the books was a rather ‘manly’ women, nothing like dear little Brenda.

it’s been going downhill ever since they started shooting it in the Czech Republic rather than Northumberland tbh. Now in la la land…..q

Is it?! There’s always stuff in online local news about where they’ve been filming in the NE. Or is it a mix of the two?

zen1 · 05/02/2023 23:54

At least Call the Midwife should be safe, being as gender woo had not been conceived of then (no pun intended!).

AutisticLegoLover · 05/02/2023 23:49

Credits give Rae's name as Mary Malone.

In the initial scene where we see Rae at the estate agents it's a fleeting glimpse of someone flouncing out but the body language and physical form were clearly male. Even at that glimpse it was obvious. The height, the build, the gait. Male.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 05/02/2023 23:40

Gaols!

Xmasbaby11 · 05/02/2023 23:27

I thought the same. No way would Vera think that. Disappointing they put that in.

JanieAllen · 05/02/2023 23:26

I'm hoping Vera was just lying in order to get the person to open up. But yes my HEART SANK. At this point in time the only refuge is All Creatures Great And Small ... no trans cows.

Redshoeblueshoe · 05/02/2023 23:19

Well I did shout at the telly, Vera - seriously.
I hope that Vera walking out of the church before the service started was Brenda saying - this is bollocks

TheShellBeach · 05/02/2023 23:17

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 05/02/2023 23:08

More indoctrination for the cultural revolution.

Vera knows that men need to be in men’s goals.

Gaols?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 05/02/2023 23:08

More indoctrination for the cultural revolution.

Vera knows that men need to be in men’s goals.

TheShellBeach · 05/02/2023 23:06

There's no way that Vera would have those views.
I wonder if Brenda Blethyn argued with the script writers?

AutisticLegoLover · 05/02/2023 23:05

I'm just watching now (was watching happy valley earlier) and am Hmm at Vera buying gender woo.

Babdoc · 05/02/2023 22:56

Seriously? A Northumbrian woman of Vera’s age, raised on a hill farm, believes gender woo?
How ridiculously unbelievable can the writers get. Surely Ann Cleeves doesn’t approve of this mangling of her famous character?

teapotfullofsquash · 05/02/2023 22:54

Just commented on another thread about this but I've sent my complaint off to Ofcom. Pointless character,didn't need to be in the episode at all, just there to say men can be in women's spaces 😳 no thanks itv

ArcaneWireless · 05/02/2023 22:52

Not. My. Vera.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/02/2023 22:51

Thanks for this. I d recorded it, I’ll delete it now.

poor Vera, poor Brenda….i think the original in the books was a rather ‘manly’ women, nothing like dear little Brenda.

it’s been going downhill ever since they started shooting it in the Czech Republic rather than Northumberland tbh. Now in la la land…..q