80 year old woman banned from pool for standing up for little girls

WTF

Are you saying there are men out there deluded enough to think that they can carry a pregnancy and give birth and who at the same time want to have access to abortions? My mind is blown.

Even presuming total innocence on the part of the transwoman employee, what a fucking awful position to have been put in by their employer. Rather than being woke and tolerant, they have placed their employee slap bang in the middle of an internet shitstorm. Why would anyone assign that task to a male person? This is the definition of being so open minded, their brains fell out.

I have now read several articles and yes, the male was supervising. Bringing me back to the questions I asked early on, do the parents of these girls understand that a male was going to be supervising them dressing?

There has also now been further clarification that the shower curtains are gappy and can be seen through. And the pool management acknowledge this.

The pool expects females to contort their bodies for their own sense of privacy as well! In a previously female single sex space. That Julie Jaman has been using for nearly 40 years and did not know the space was now in reality mixed sex.

So this male was also able to see Julie Jaman showering. So she was also feeling violated herself.

And apparently someone from the pool contacted the police to report but did so anonymously and would not give a name.

There are multiple sites with different articles about this now. But the story seems consistent. And some sites have stated they have independently verified with both police and the pool management.

If you plug in the woman’s name, there are other articles. All written by different people across different media.

All saying the same thing.

All reporting the writers have checked separately with the Police and with Erin Hawkins from the YMCA.

Perhaps you don’t like the website Reduxx, but you are showing your own prejudice against it here. If you cannot show examples why we should not read the site with the same degree of confidence that you read any non-mainstream site (ie. any mature adult would check for other sources on everything they read these days), maybe stop denouncing it based on your own clearly biased views.

This just gets more and more chilling…. That is horrifying!

@EsmaCannonball 'So now it's been reported, and seemingly confirmed by the YMCA, that the male employee was actually tasked with supervising young girls at a day-camp as they used the locker room'

Have you got a link, pretty please 🙏 Sorry, being lazy and need to make G&T

So now it's been reported, and seemingly confirmed by the YMCA, that the male employee was actually tasked with supervising young girls at a day-camp as they used the locker room. Were the parents informed about this? Can you imagine how much abusers are going to be drawn to this loophole?

And am shocked, I tell you, shocked that some people are still not happy with that

Do we want that association? I don’t.

Ooh, they all real hope that the science advances so far as to give men ability to carry babies (I've seen some stating that would also like to have access to abortion in this situation, so that's why they're very pro-choice) 🤷‍♀️

I agree with one of the comments on that Twitter thread-'it's just genderspeak for men and women'.

And am shocked, I tell you, shocked that some people are still not happy with that

The day a wealthy male celebrity pays £££s to try and use an impoverished transwoman as a surrogate is the day I believe that TRAs truly believe the mantras they chant.

I am envisioning full acceptance and with all spaces exclusively for AFAB and AMAB - and all genders in those categories welcome

Have you seen this? I don't see why anyone should object at all but of course they do

https://twitter.com/_crymiariver/status/1555333537703796738?s=21&t=DHa7ETlqPBNYaG2Gw7AbhA

Weird that isn't it?

YY, uncannily unerring in those situations, FatAgain.

Not just surrogacy.

Sex only seems to become this hazy, changeable, difficult to define thing when men want to become women.

There seems to be no problem identifying biological sex when it comes to Female Genital Mutilations, Infanticide or abandoning baby girls because they aren't as good as boys. Pretty sure none of the women and girls being forced into marriage, beaten, raped or sexually abused are being asked to state their gender identity first, their biological sex seems to be the common denominator there.
Actually I don't remember anyone asking if I identify as a man before paying my male colleagues more than me or promoting less qualified men into positions I should have been given.

Weird that isn't it?

These males are just as much a women as the female kind, in fact your sex has nothing to do with your body and if you identify as a woman your sex is, and always was, female.

Isn't it strange how that breaks down when it comes to surrogacy?

😂

The T had not been attached to the LGB in 1988 but there was then, as now, another group of people attempting to ride the coat tails of the gay rights movement. That group of people also tried to push boundaries, particularly with children and to groom adults to think of that boundary pushing as progressive. It wasn't progressive then and it isn't now. Section 28 was an over reaction but if the LGBT community does not call out this boundary pushing then they run the risk of being tainted by the aims of a group that most of society is happy to stigmatise. As much as section 28 was abhorrent I can see how it happened and how something similar could happen again.

Just in case it's not clear I'm talking about paedophiles co-opting the struggle of LGBT people. Let's stop pretending it is somehow discriminatory to object to an adult male watching little girls get undressed, it's not, it's safeguarding.

No worries at all @LK1972 , I am just trying to use inclusive language and really show my full acceptance of transpeople and all forms of gender.

as long as you are AFAB, I think a huge gender diversity should be welcome in every single space!!

Sorry, re-reading your post I think I misinterpreted your meaning

So you mean no sex segregation at all?

'So the flag and Pride posters were the ‘sign’ that males were allowed access to that area that should be safe for females' - yes @Helleofabore, that is how I interpreted YMCA management response, as reported in the article.

Again, do we want that association/interpretation to be acceptable in UK?

As a bisexual mother of 3 non-straight children I would disagree.

I actually hope we will be much more inclusive than that @LK1972 !

I am envisioning full acceptance and with all spaces exclusively for AFAB and AMAB - and all genders in those categories welcome 🤗 .

Yes @MishyJDI , we will definitely look back at protecting women's single-sex spaces in this country with horror, because we will all think that 80-yr old was a bigot, like you do.

We all additionally will be very happy with presence of naked males where we're naked, because that is totally fine, no issue whatsoever, it's all just prudery and pearl-clutching.

These males are just as much a women as the female kind, in fact your sex has nothing to do with your body and if you identify as a woman your sex is, and always was, female.

Is that your full prediction or did I get bits wrong?

Yes, I agree. Maybe we should listen to men, on this, as they'd know this one better (but may not be actually completely comfortable revealing the details).