80 year old woman banned from pool for standing up for little girls

So, she should have waited then? While the male continued to watch the girls?

This is a woman who has dealt with abused women and children for decades. She helped set up the first shelters in the area after using her home.

Do you think her interpretation of the harm being done here was wrong?

And that she should have allowed it to continue until she was dressed and left the girls to speak to management?

When you consider the situation, do you really think that is the appropriate action? Or should a woman in that position (shocked and reacting on instinct) no longer react to try to remove the potential harm they see in front of them?

Should we all now wait and calmly speak to management after the event?

Deeply disturbing. I really feel for the woman (the real one).

This really isn’t the point, is it?

So a male staff member was watching a group of very young girls? Why?

Was this in a work capacity?
Was this male looking after the group?
And if so, did the parents realise that this male would be watching their girls change?

And there was no denial that this male was watching this group or was standing there long enough to have this conversation.

Red flags abound here. Forget about whatever the fuck the management wanted to infer with displaying any other kind of flags.

And they interrogated the woman while she was still undressed? And lied and said the police were coming? And the staff are claiming the moral high ground here?

WTAF? There is so much wrong going on there.

Because it means we do know what to expect when we see the sign: discrimination.

Doesn’t sound very respectable to me.

Ah yes. A variation on "she asked for it".

Funnily enough, feminists have known for years that being coy about genitalia often plays into the hands of the abuser. It is why we, teach our daughters "vulva" instead of "twinkle" or other such euphemisms.

You are being deliberately obtuse. You know full well if asked "are you a woman?" Clementine would have replied "yes".

Would it have been OK with you if the old lady had used a male version of the dehumanising language women are often subjected to? Would "are you a penis-bearer" have sufficed?

So the flag and Pride posters were the ‘sign’ that males were allowed access to that area that should be safe for females?

Way to build a automatic reaction of the exact opposite that the rainbow flag was meant to convey!

Do these people stop to think? At all?

I am sure that in two decades there will be case studies in marketing texts about this era.

Men in women's spaces is never going to end well.

What Women ?
Have you not read the article ?

So the problem is the woman didn't use the right reasoning to look out for young girls?

So the young girls need protecting but we'll only provide that protection if you present the problem the right way?

Asking a stranger about their genitalia will get you banned from most respectable establishments.

If she was worried the woman was watching the children get changed, she should have challenged that, and told the staff.

Male privilege

Why is it always ok for the women and girls to feel discriminated, anxious, unfairly pushed aside for the trans women? Why do the trans women feelings always trump the women and girls?

Incredibly disturbing. A big thank you to the brave woman who spoke up.

Wow. At some points in that article I felt I was reading The Handmaids Tale or 1984 - totally surreal.

When Jaman asked Bart why no signs had been posted informing women that males could potentially be in the locker rooms, she says she was told: “‘We post pride signs, and we assume that lets women know what to expect.'”

WTAF. I mean I do know what to expect with the flags now (like on those face masks the counter demonstrators had on) but to use them instead of an actual written notice is quite unbelievable.