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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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fallfallfall · 25/11/2024 18:16

@miri1985 after x amount of time of not practicing the route back into nursing will require going back to some type of formal/supervised education. it's ticking timebomb to loosing ones license to practice regardless of if AH was or wasn't right.

duc748 · 25/11/2024 11:00

It absolutely is. Good people in the world.

MarieDeGournay · 25/11/2024 10:42

What I like about this gesture is that it is obviously instinctive, and maybe not well thought-through - I mean, there are so many things wrong with the very idea of a $5,000 handbag, and that $5,000 could be put to better use, and is Amy going to be able to parade around with a $5,000 Gucci handbag?

I can imagine the online conniptions from the JKR haters around all that...

But a brave woman says she wants one, and a generous and brave and extremely rich one says 'Here, you've earned it'.
Feck the begrudgers, it's gloriousSmile

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 25/11/2024 09:45

I too hope she can sue them for the despicable process and the stress it's caused. There's just no rational justification.

miri1985 · 25/11/2024 06:03

Hopefully photo adds to this one

Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC
miri1985 · 25/11/2024 06:01

Goodness its not just Amy, look at the dates they conducted these hearings on and no decisions yet. The first one at least was heard on consecutive days but in 2022 and no decision yet

miri1985 · 25/11/2024 05:57

Thats very sweet of JK.

I cannot understand this process, hearings spaced months apart and then no verdict for ages. This is one of the worst legal processes I've ever heard of. I don't know how they expect a fair adjudication to come from this.

The stress of the spread out hearings and then no judgment for ages, must be torture

fallfallfall · 13/11/2024 15:50

The wait is punishment and a very sad reflection on the college.
I hope she can at some point sue them for this mistreatment.
Meanwhile in Canada NO ONE has stepped forward to “re educate” Jordan P.
The governing bodies are captured and yet it seems most professionals have not figured out how to explain away biology.

UtopiaPlanitia · 13/11/2024 15:23

What’s been happening to Amy over the last number of years is the absolute definition of the process is the punishment.

I’m in awe of Amy’s refusal to give up/give in after all that’s been done to her.

lcakethereforeIam · 13/11/2024 15:19

Just found this link. It should be where the decision will be published

https://www.bccnm.ca/Public/complaints/Pages/Notice.aspx?NoticeID=790

Sets out how long this has dragged on for too. The process....

Notice

https://www.bccnm.ca/Public/complaints/Pages/Notice.aspx?NoticeID=790

fallfallfall · 20/03/2024 21:29

Rahim Mohamed: Gender critical nurse wins public opinion battle against woke activists (msn.com)

ah legal team suggested that the drawn out case could be considered harassment i wonder if she would be able to sue (i hope so, hitting the college in the pocket book might help them realize that a majority of their members are women).

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/rahim-mohamed-gender-critical-nurse-wins-public-opinion-battle-against-woke-activists/ar-BB1keKNi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=1e64426220904f37b0d2dfd2cf3dd881&ei=100

DrBlackbird · 20/03/2024 08:38

@fromorbit that statement is equally heartbreaking and frightening. Orwellian is not an inappropriate characterisation of the BCCNM’s approach to Amy’s social media posts. Doesn’t give any reassurance for what will happen post the Online Safety bill passing into law. Just another means to control women and punish them for speaking up.

fromorbit · 20/03/2024 07:04

Amy's statement on the trial on X

November 16, 2020: I got a letter saying that I was under investigation by @BCnursemidwife for my role in putting up an "I <3 JK Rowling" billboard.

I had recently become a single mom to a baby and a toddler. I felt my life was in pieces, personally and financially, and this letter nearly sent me over the edge.

So much happened between 2020 and now. I refused to keep the investigation confidential. I refused to accept a suspension or to publicly say I had been transphobic (because I am not). I was accused of spreading "medical misinformation" but then that charge was dropped, with zero explanation or apology (I demanded one but this demand went ignored).

The BCCNM fought like hell to prevent me from having a single witness to testify in my defence. They didn't want the public to know that they were persecuting me, and they also didn't want me to even be able to defend myself. They spent days and days of the hearing attempting to disqualify every single witness I brought forth. It was as astounding as it was terrifying.

I've received countless threats and have had plenty more anonymous, cowardly complainants try to have me fired for standing up for women and children. It continues to this day. There are battles that haven't been made public yet. (Yet!) I'm not the same person I was in 2020. (Just try me.)

I've been through more than 20 days of trial, which finally ended today, March 19, 2024. Now I wait for a verdict and hope for justice.

This process was hell. I did my best to endure itI haven't remained calm throughoutin the hopes that something good would come at the end. I also endured it because the truth matters. Free speech matters. Women and children matter.

I was overwhelmed with relief when @JCCFCanada told me they were taking on my case. They are the reason I was able to fight. I am overwhelmed with gratitude for @LDBildy and Karen Bastow. Lisa's closing remarks today were a wake-up call for Canada. They were perfect. (Lisa, please be my lawyer forever.)

Thank you to @Docstockk @JamesCantorPhD @coachblade @Mason134211f @Miriam_Grossman for showing upor being ready toto speak to the truth, and science.

And thank you to everyone out there who has given their support. I am bursting with gratitude for each and every person who took time out of their lives to encourage me in this fight. I needed it. I really did. And you gave it to me. Thank you.

fallfallfall · 20/03/2024 03:20

the official complaint: 20220628BCCNMHamm_Citation.pdf
where the findings will be posted: Hearings (bccnm.ca)
surprised there are some outstanding hearings with no findings posted yet.

https://www.bccnm.ca/Documents/complaints/2022_06_28_BCCNM_Hamm_Citation.pdf

IcakethereforeIam · 19/03/2024 22:20

Amy Hamm says on X that #IstandwithAmyHamm was trending on X. 😊

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DrBlackbird · 19/03/2024 22:14

fallfallfall · 19/03/2024 21:30

@DrBlackbird if she was 20 in the sixties that would make her?? 80??

Seemed a bit odd to me too but that’s what it says on her Wikipedia page.

nauticant · 19/03/2024 22:13

Thanks for the summary fallfallfall. Well, although I got too much bf yesterday, I suppose it does me some good to remind myself from time to time how the genderists argue and what do they consider to be salient points.

fallfallfall · 19/03/2024 22:05

yes @Snowypeaks and therefore acting unprofessionally.

Snowypeaks · 19/03/2024 22:03

I suppose that's a good sign?

I am wondering why it would damage her to say she was a nurse? Is that because she would somehow connect herself to the College and then be speaking in an official capacity?

fallfallfall · 19/03/2024 21:58

@nauticant i can't say that ah's counsel was good interesting or even well presented BUT it did raise some valid questions which clearly caught the chair's attention.
the chair at the end asked two very important questions 1) was the content political 2) where did ah claim she was a nurse or nurse educator. the lawyers for the college seemed to dither on the political speech but conceded that in neither of the two area's of interest did ah claim she was a nurse or nurse educator.

nauticant · 19/03/2024 21:50

Just as I get home. So, I get hours of braindeath by bf and I miss all of AH's counsel. Bah.

Signalbox · 19/03/2024 21:48

Finished now.

chilling19 · 19/03/2024 21:46

Given the Canadian clusterfuck in this area, I can't call the outcome. It may be they say that Amy shouldn't have stated she was a nurse, but she has the right to her personal opinions absent this? So she should have been admonished on this basis - I.e. not to do this again, but no way should this have resulted in a witch hunt.

Signalbox · 19/03/2024 21:43

nauticant · 19/03/2024 21:37

Is this still going on? If so I'll log back in when I'm (shortly) back home.

It's nearly over. Main submissions have been made on both sides. College has had their right to reply and is now being questioned by panel. Presumably Bildy will have the same opportunity to reply.

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