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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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Signalbox · 23/10/2023 13:31

Impossiblenurse · 23/10/2023 11:26

Well that was embarrassing. Thank you.

You’re not alone. I did the same last time around :D

IcakethereforeIam · 23/10/2023 11:36

I just hope you didn't wake the judgeGrin

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Impossiblenurse · 23/10/2023 11:26

Well that was embarrassing. Thank you.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/10/2023 11:15

@Impossiblenurse I think it's still the wee small hours in Canada at the moment. I think it starts around 6 pm BST. I'm not sure because BC seems to have multiple time zones and it might be 6 pm GMT, which is 5 pm BST.....?

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Impossiblenurse · 23/10/2023 11:07

Thank you for the link icake.

Is anyone here on the link Amy Hamm case? Not sure if I'm having tech issues, or it's just not started yet (waiting for host to join).

IcakethereforeIam · 20/10/2023 15:48

Just bumping the thread and reposting the link for anyone who wants it

https://www.bccnm.ca/Public/complaints/Pages/Notice.aspx?NoticeID=790

Notice

https://www.bccnm.ca/Public/complaints/Pages/Notice.aspx?NoticeID=790

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duc748 · 16/10/2023 17:52

The BC College of Nurses says that children as young as 2 or 3 years old can “become aware” of their gender and that it is the responsibility of medical professionals to “affirm” whatever “gender expression” emanates from the toddler’s communications, irrespective of the biology of the children.

Not at all loony. Oh, no, sirree, Bob.

BezMills · 16/10/2023 11:38

Rainbowshit · 15/10/2023 17:07

Wow! That is fantastic.

"Under trans doctrine (which, shockingly, institutions in the west are embracing seemingly without question), the incorporeal soul/gender that supposedly exists in a child is so completely supreme, the despicable body is something to be loathed, rejected, subverted, drugged, mutilated, and dominated.
The body exists at the whim of the divine gender/soul. The body, made up of meaningless flesh, can be cut, chopped, sculpted, amputated, or experimented upon with full confidence that the “real person” inside will be unaffected by what occurs in the physical world.
How is it that as a society we have allowed what is demonstrably a fringe religious doctrine to shape law and policy to such a tragic extent?"

Spot on

When you lay it out in such stark terms, it's so jarring. Genderism is a weird ideology based on twin pillars of false consciousness and the fake promise of experimental surgery.
There are all kinds of body dysmorphia (which can be horrible and debilitating in severe cases) and only one, it seems, is treated in this way. Because GenderSoul?

The fuck?

PearlClutch · 15/10/2023 20:59

The College, perhaps unintentionally, has placed itself on trial.

😁

Grammarnut · 15/10/2023 18:43

Good luck Amy. Terf Island is with you.

Rainbowshit · 15/10/2023 17:07

IcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2023 16:03

I found this article from a bit ago on the case. I don't think I've seen it before but it very eloquently sums up the situation in Canada

https://www.newwesttimes.com/news/holy-hamm-hearing-gender-theology-on-trial/article_307a5fa6-abcd-11ed-8f7e-83dae29676ed.html

Wow! That is fantastic.

"Under trans doctrine (which, shockingly, institutions in the west are embracing seemingly without question), the incorporeal soul/gender that supposedly exists in a child is so completely supreme, the despicable body is something to be loathed, rejected, subverted, drugged, mutilated, and dominated.
The body exists at the whim of the divine gender/soul. The body, made up of meaningless flesh, can be cut, chopped, sculpted, amputated, or experimented upon with full confidence that the “real person” inside will be unaffected by what occurs in the physical world.
How is it that as a society we have allowed what is demonstrably a fringe religious doctrine to shape law and policy to such a tragic extent?"

Spot on

Datun · 15/10/2023 16:59

IcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2023 16:03

I found this article from a bit ago on the case. I don't think I've seen it before but it very eloquently sums up the situation in Canada

https://www.newwesttimes.com/news/holy-hamm-hearing-gender-theology-on-trial/article_307a5fa6-abcd-11ed-8f7e-83dae29676ed.html

Great article

DameMaud · 15/10/2023 16:42

IcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2023 16:03

I found this article from a bit ago on the case. I don't think I've seen it before but it very eloquently sums up the situation in Canada

https://www.newwesttimes.com/news/holy-hamm-hearing-gender-theology-on-trial/article_307a5fa6-abcd-11ed-8f7e-83dae29676ed.html

Blimey, no holes barred, fantastic article! Thanks for this cake!
Been wondering how it's going for Amy. Wasnt holding out much hope with things being as they are in Canada- but it actually sounds like it might be going similarly to Jo Phoenix case...?

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Justsaynonow · 08/10/2023 22:06

@IcakethereforeIam
You're welcome - I'm in BC and have to convert time to various other countries and DST variations are a pain. Thank you for keeping this thread up to date.

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IcakethereforeIam · 07/10/2023 23:45

Thank you @Justsaynonow I would have had no idea.

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Justsaynonow · 07/10/2023 19:07

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2023 13:38

10 am BC seems to be 6 pm UK. I'm assuming BST, so 5 pm when the clocks go back on 29th Oct?

And remember that PST goes back an hour Nov 5.

Signalbox · 06/10/2023 15:16

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2023 14:40

Iirc Dr Grossman (can't remember her first name) and Kathleen Stock testified but it was only to see if they were sufficiently qualified to be witnesses. I don't this Dr Grossman met the threshold but Doc Stock did. I don't think Amy has testified yet.

Oh yes that's right. I'm glad Amy's got KS as a witness, she definitely needs all the support she can get!

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2023 14:40

Iirc Dr Grossman (can't remember her first name) and Kathleen Stock testified but it was only to see if they were sufficiently qualified to be witnesses. I don't this Dr Grossman met the threshold but Doc Stock did. I don't think Amy has testified yet.

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Signalbox · 06/10/2023 14:15

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2023 13:33

Thank you @Signalbox

All that time! I wonder if it'll be as insane as the stuff we've already heard.

Their expert Greta Bauer was batshit wasn’t she? They are so much worse off in Canada than we are!

Have we heard any of Amy’s evidence yet? I can’t even remember.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2023 13:38

10 am BC seems to be 6 pm UK. I'm assuming BST, so 5 pm when the clocks go back on 29th Oct?

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IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2023 13:33

Thank you @Signalbox

All that time! I wonder if it'll be as insane as the stuff we've already heard.

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PearlClutch · 06/10/2023 13:31

Thanks, Signal.

Signalbox · 06/10/2023 13:18

BCCNM will continue a hearing regarding Amy Hamm on the following dates:

  • Oct. 23 to 25, 2023
  • Oct. 31 to Nov. 3, 2023
  • Nov. 6 to 8, 2023