Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

Amy was never going to get a fair decision from the panel, they couldn’t even give her a basic fair hearing: there was so much bias shown towards her and her lawyers by the panel during the hearing that it was obvious that the hearing’s intent was simply to punish her.

I imagine the suggestion that sex isn’t based on gametes is where the multidimensional comments come from eg hormonal sex is frequently brought up by activists.

Panel clearly wouldn’t know a reasonable person if they fecking fell over one. And indeed basics of material reality seem outwith their grasp.

May they all have the lives they so richly deserve.

I assume its because of the 2 spirit thing that they keep claiming indigenous Canadians believe in people being trans/non-binary when in reality they were perfectly aware of sex.

'multidimensional' jumped out at me too! WTF is that supposed to mean? How has this anti-science rubbish ever found favour? I wonder how confident Amy was? Of course I thought she'd sail through, but what do we know on the other side of the ditch? No doubt this will have an effect of nurse recrcuitment (although I'll bet they're paid better in Cananda).

Wasn't there a case in Canada a while where a biological male was exposing himself with children present in a female changing room and the child was expected to be educated in how not to look at other people and to mind theor own business. 😡. In a sane world he should have been prosecuted for indecent exposure.

Might as well have said sex is "quantum", increase the bullshit level.

(It isn't actually even single-dimensional, let alone multi-...)

The statement that sex is distinct from gender as a material biological reality is true but other claims such as there are only two sexes, humans cannot change their sex, and sex chromosomes are immutable are either oversimplifications or not true given that sex is multidimensional.

'given that sex is multidimensional'.
'Given that'? Given by whom? it is not 'given', it is hotly contested.

But what does 'multidimensional' even mean in the context of sex - how does being male or female have 'dimensions'?

I could go on spluttering with incandescent rage at their misuse of language, and the horrible consequences for Amy Hamm.

I know it's of no practical benefit to her, but this ruling is so obviously unfair - the 'given that' is a massive red flag saying 🚩'No Objectivity Here' 🚩- that she comes out of it philosophically victorious.
Yeah I know, philosophical victories butter no parsnips..😞🚩

The Canadian government is a disgrace. I don't see it getting any better under Carney.

I'm gutted for amy and I hope she can appeal.

Appalling decision, and the reasoning behind it as outlined is unbelievable. Poor Amy, I do hope she appeals, Canadian women are in dire need of Amys who are willing to stand up to such extraordinary misogyny.

The immense peaking effect from Yaniv's bollocks gets a mention.

148. The Respondent confirmed she was also one of the co-founders of caWsbar, a non-partisan coalition of women across the country which focuses on women’s sex-based rights and the protection of women and children. She explained that caWsbar was formed in the aftermath of, and in response to, the human rights case involving the estheticians who refused to wax the genitals of a transgender woman. The caWsbar members were outraged that a woman could be compelled to handle male genitalia. The caWsbar organization engages in letter writing campaigns to politicians and governments to raise awareness and encourage discussion amongst Canadians. The Respondent said this is important because few people are willing to talk about these issues because opponents will try to destroy their lives. She denied that caWsbar is trans exclusionary. The Respondent testified that she was not involved in drafting the caWsbar Position Statement but was on the steering committee which endorsed it. The Respondent testified she was not involved with the caWsbar Twitter account or any of its publications or communications, and confirmed she only tweeted under her own name.

Shame on these decision makers. A devastating result for Amy and for women and girls in Canada. Amy may you have the strength and support to appeal. It is truly terrifying. Oh Canada WTFH! Dystopian times.

Is this an official statement by the medical professionals of the British Columbia College of Nurses and Midwives that there are more than two sexes, and that humans can change sex and change their sex chromosomes? Absolutely wild if so.

250. At Tabs 21 and 22 of the Extract, the Respondent associates herself with the caWsbar Position Statement which advocates for sex-based rights of cisgender women and girls. The organization’s stated mission is to take action to protect sex-based spaces using its collective voices to demand that women’s and girl’s Charter rights be recognized and defended by various non-violent means such as increasing public awareness and education, increasing political pressure, and bringing legal challenges. The Panel accepts Dr. Bauer’s evidence that there is limited truth to some of the statements while others are oversimplifications or simply untrue. The statement that sex is distinct from gender as a material biological reality is true but other claims such as there are only two sexes, humans cannot change their sex, and sex chromosomes are immutable are either oversimplifications or not true given that sex is multidimensional. Some of the statements are unfair to the extent they advocate for legal changes which would adversely impact the equality rights of transgender women; however, the Panel also recognizes that the Position Statement constitutes political speech advocating for sex-based equality rights of cisgender women and girls. As well, unlike some of the Respondent’s other online statements, the Position Statement is drafted in less inflammatory terms without statements which are overtly derogatory to transgender people.

Patronising ("her musings") as well as batshit.

Ridiculous, isn't it? I hope no nurses in Canada ever suggest that young earth creationists are misguided, because that would be derogatory to all Christians ... or something.

The decision reads like it was penned by trans activists. The sexism leaps off the page:

251. At Tab 24 of the Extract, the Respondent makes a series of statements regarding gender issues in her article entitled “On feeling like a woman”. The Respondent states “there is no absconding” from female bodies, the feeling of being a woman does not exist, and there is no “incantation or initiation that can transcend bodily reality” without a female body. The Panel finds that these statements are untrue and unfair to transgender women as they deny the possibility that that an individual born into a male body can feel like a woman and effectively deny the existence of transgender women. The Panel does not accept that an article containing the Respondent’s personal reflections on womanhood constitutes political speech, although it accepts that her musings contribute to social discourse about the meaning of being a woman.

Blimey, that's devastating and a perverse judgement. They seem to have over reached in conflating activists with all trans people - possible grounds for an appeal?

Damn. So women in Canada don’t have freedom of speech? Roll on a new government in the autumn (and I’ve always admired Mark Carney - maybe he can sort this out before then)

I really hope that reasonable people would understand that trans activists are not synonymous with trans people. The judgement uses the words 'trans community' as a sort of stepping stone. Trans activists and trans people all sit within the same trans community so ...

This was a horrible case and this outcome could put me off Canada. But, I understand that the trans allies of Canada are not synonymous with Canadians.

Fucking hell. I hope she has the strength and support to appeal (although I don’t know enough about the Canadian justice system to know whether she has grounds to do so.

how very frustrating.
i hope the college's disciplinary actions reflect that so much has come forward regarding women's spaces and safety.

Drown the witch.

I'm just reading the decision and the statements she was found guilty of having brought her profession into ill repute are nothing I would consider in any way offensive.

This is the first one, its an opinion that a woman should have the right to hold and express.

"Page 74 of Tab 4: This page contains the final paragraph of an online article which is reproduced in full at Tab 30 (pp. 276 – 278). The College maintains the statement “trans activists determined to infiltrate or destroy women-only spaces” at p. 74 is discriminatory because it suggests that transgender persons will destroy female spaces. The statement is made in the context of an article which addresses the Vancouver City Council’s decision to rescind an annual grant to the Vancouver Women’s Shelter because it refused to allow males who self-identify as women to access its services and shelter. The Respondent quotes from a Vancouver Women’s Shelter member and former client who described how the rape relief services changed her life.
The Respondent reports that the Vancouver Women’s Shelter plans to host its annual fundraiser, noting that many prominent feminists and allies have publicly offered support. She concludes by observing the Vancouver Women’s Shelter will “surely (and maddeningly) face continued backlash from trans activists determined to infiltrate or destroy women-only spaces. The women of VRR, however, are clearly up to the task”.

During the hearing, the Respondent testified she is not speaking about transgender people generally when she refers to trans activists:
A … sometimes I’ve said trans activists as well, which maybe as a side-note I would just mention I’ve been misinterpreted when I’ve said or criticized trans rights activists. I’m not speaking about trans people when I say that I’m speaking about the people that are activists for this cause, and who embrace gender ideology, and it’s – you know, it’s a movement that is infringing on the rights of women and pushing institutions to adopt what I believe are false and delusional beliefs about reality. And often this is a movement that has in my personal experience become extremely abusive towards women who speak out against it.

The Panel agrees with the College that the reference to trans activists infiltrating or destroying “women-only spaces” has a negative connotation of improper, illegal, aggressive, and destructive conduct. Although the statement is directed to “trans activists”, who may or may not be transgender persons, and the Respondent sought to distinguish transgender activists from transgender people generally in her evidence, the Panel finds that a reasonable person would associate those comments with members of the transgender community. The comment is discriminatory and derisive as it suggests all transgender activists will act in an improper and aggressive manner in attempting to infiltrate or destroy “women-only spaces” and derogatory to the extent it is designed to lower the standing of transgender persons in the community and elicit outrage and contempt. The Respondent is identified as a “registered nurse educator” in the footer to the online article. "

https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Decision-on-Verdict-March-13-2025.pdf?mc_cid=74250c43b1

The ruling is out, shes been found guilty of professional misconduct

https://www.jccf.ca/free-speech-of-regulated-professionals-harmed-after-nurse-amy-hamm-found-guilty-of-professional-misconduct/

You make an excellent point, this ‘investigation’ is, in effect, sabotaging Hamm’s career whatever the outcome.