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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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toomanytrees · 27/10/2023 01:24

The CBC article referenced above is a biased and inaccurate hit piece against Amy Hamm. Here is part of Amy's response on twitter:

Hey @bethanylindsay your piece sucks and is incredibly biased. You didn’t think it was relevant to add the shocking disregard for rules when the BCCNM’s lawyer, B Findlay, invited her witness to view my hearing all day? That was the story. You buried it.

You’re no journalist.

A portion of the article which spoke of JKRowling in a defammatory way was later edited by CBC and reworded.

More information can be found on Amy's twitter account.

Justsaynonow · 27/10/2023 00:17

Recap twitter thread of Day 14 (Oct 25) the date is wrong on the first tweet. Hearing will resume next week.

(Eta link )

TeiTetua · 26/10/2023 17:29

If there are people interested in this case but not understanding much about it, here's an article in the Canadian press that explains what Amy Hamm is accused of and what's happening in this hearing: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-amy-hamm-disciplinary-hearing-1.7005480

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:23

Hmm

Signalbox · 25/10/2023 22:21

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:20

What happens if Cantor is rejected?

Presumably they just have to continue without him.

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:20

What happens if Cantor is rejected?

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:17

cyber - yes, a common theme is proselytising from the transgender side because that is all they have.

CyberCritical · 25/10/2023 22:13

BD is really hard to listen to, there's slurred/tired quality to her voice that makes her fade in and out.

I thought she was supposed to be talking about why she thinks the Dr is or isn't suitable to be an expert, not giving a speech on the vulnerability of trans people.

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:11

BF - I predict that she will object to Cantor.

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:07

So this is Canada's Forstater. Fingers crossed Amy.

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 22:05

Interesting that the submissions cannot rely on Forstater - don't think I quite realised how what a problem this is for other countries. The defence are having to start from a completely different baseline.

fallfallfall · 25/10/2023 21:39

i'm ashamed i paid union fees to the crnbc their views have been disappointing for years

CyberCritical · 25/10/2023 21:19

This process could actually go on forever it's ludicrous, this is not a murder case, it's a College who are unhappy that a member had views they don't agree with. It should be a simple matter of:

  • checking whether stating the views is actually illegal
  • checking whether there are college policies that preclude the member from stating those views publicly
  • checking whether those policies, if they exist, were adequately communicated to the Member so that they could be compliant to them
  • confirming whether college policies relating to disciplinary/grievance procedures were correctly carried out
  • giving a judgement, taking the above into consideration, that is in line with the documented policies.

It should have all happened within months of the complaint being raised, not years and the hearing should be 2-3 days max.

Signalbox · 25/10/2023 21:18

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 21:09

Yay! BF has finished. Big sigh of result all round.

It took her all day to ask about 3 questions.

And we're still only at qualification stage!

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 21:09

Yay! BF has finished. Big sigh of result all round.

Signalbox · 25/10/2023 20:05

bf is a joke. She wants only yes and no answers from JC. Karen objected again to this. Panel now going for lunch. I don’t think JC has answered a single question so far today! 😂

Signalbox · 25/10/2023 19:55

Justsaynonow · 25/10/2023 18:27

New cbc article (not at all a slanted "perspective" 🙄) and yesterday's synopsis. If anyone feels like writing a complaint, here's a link. Fascinating reading the cbc piece vs the synopsis.

The cbc article from yesterday has been edited, possibly after input from JKR's lawyers.

I honestly feel like this process would be going faster if it were a real court of law. 14th day already 😖.

That article is so biased.

Signalbox · 25/10/2023 19:49

At this point Karen is objecting to every question bf asks. Such a waste of time when they have to go off every time for ten minutes to make a decision.

chilling19 · 25/10/2023 19:43

BF still delaying the proceedings

Justsaynonow · 25/10/2023 18:27

New cbc article (not at all a slanted "perspective" 🙄) and yesterday's synopsis. If anyone feels like writing a complaint, here's a link. Fascinating reading the cbc piece vs the synopsis.

The cbc article from yesterday has been edited, possibly after input from JKR's lawyers.

I honestly feel like this process would be going faster if it were a real court of law. 14th day already 😖.

Controversial psychologist tells B.C. hearing he feels a duty to speak out on transgender issues | CBC News

A hearing for a B.C. nurse facing potential discipline over her public statements about transgender people has turned into a debate over whether a controversial psychologist is qualified to testify as an expert witness.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-amy-hamm-disciplinary-hearing-oct-24-1.7007014

chilling19 · 24/10/2023 23:58

Cantor cannot comment on a Jordan Peterson disciplinary. What us this woman doing?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/10/2023 23:49

Brilliant 🤩

CyberCritical · 24/10/2023 23:45

It does look like a Posie soup mug 😀

ILikeDungs · 24/10/2023 23:41

BF discusses equity, diversion and equality. Diversion? Like, detour?

Does Amy Hamm have a Posie soup mug?

CyberCritical · 24/10/2023 23:24

Why does she feel the need to read everything in full, just refer everyone to the document, they have it, it's part of the pack!

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