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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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chilling19 · 02/11/2023 19:09

Yes, they held up the objection 👏

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 19:09

I missed the decision chilling19 were you watching when they came back?

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 19:01

Bastow objecting strongly to BF questioning Cantor about his experience as a gay man in order to link it to minority stress theory. And yes, it is abhorrent - she is trying to discredit his expertise on the basis of bias in my opinion. As Bastow points out, it is irrelevant to Cantor's status as an expert witness.

In fact, it seems to me that (as usual) the Trans side have no argument and so they try to shut down the GC side by any means necessary.

It will be interesting to see if the panel (which, after all is firmly located in ultra-woke Canada) make their decisions on the legalities. If they do not hold up Bastow's objection, I think there are robust grounds for appeal if this is needed after the eventual ruling. It may be that BF is trying to kick the can down the road, but I would have thought even more daylight would be very counterproductive, especially in light of the Zacchigna lawsuit
nationalpost.com/news/canada/michelle-zacchigna-ontario-detransitioner-sues-doctors

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 18:50

Karen Bastow is on fire.

Signalbox · 02/11/2023 18:47

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 17:50

Cantor: 'Data is not the plural of anecdote'. Boom.

Ha ha brilliant. I missed that moment.

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 18:23

Bastow's turn to object 😂

chilling19 · 02/11/2023 17:50

Cantor: 'Data is not the plural of anecdote'. Boom.

Justsaynonow · 01/11/2023 00:28

James Cantor is impressive - I'm glad the panel has allowed him to testify as to global practices, not limited to just US and Canada as BF wanted.

This twitter person is also summarizing today's proceedings, but unfortunately hasn't linked the tweets so you have to click on each one.

https://twitter.com/DreaHumphrey

chilling19 · 31/10/2023 22:12

Unstable identity - yes indeed

chilling19 · 31/10/2023 22:12

Cantor makes a lot of sense. He is underlining what we have been saying in this board for years.

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 22:06

It's so funny. Every time BF objects my phone stops audio and switches to text only. I appreciate bf has a job to do but it's hard to not to find her tedious.

So tedious. Every time she interrupts KB's question to ask if there is a question I don't know how KB is keeping her cool.

Impossiblenurse · 31/10/2023 21:58

Ah thanks signalbox for the correction greta bauer not marcie bower. Its so long ago it's hard to follow.

Impossiblenurse · 31/10/2023 21:42

Me too. It does feel like a 'fingers crossed moment..but it really shouldn't be..the evidence is so poor.

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 21:37

Impossiblenurse · 31/10/2023 21:28

JC very clear. I like that he was asked to comment on marci bowers evidence and was happy to illustrate flaws. Also very clear about defining suicide and suicidal ideation and need for careful clinical management of suicidal ideation.

Just keeping my fingers crossed that the panel are persuaded by his clarity. His evidence is so much more reality based than Greta Bauer.

Impossiblenurse · 31/10/2023 21:36

It's so funny. Every time BF objects my phone stops audio and switches to text only. I appreciate bf has a job to do but it's hard to not to find her tedious.

It's interesting that BF is unable to tolerate exploration of opportunities for understanding and developing effective support and care. Is that the look bc nursing Council is going for?

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 21:29

Lol bf doesn't want JC linking social media to trans identity. Says he's not qualified to discuss social media and its relationship to gender identity.

Impossiblenurse · 31/10/2023 21:28

JC very clear. I like that he was asked to comment on marci bowers evidence and was happy to illustrate flaws. Also very clear about defining suicide and suicidal ideation and need for careful clinical management of suicidal ideation.

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 21:25

JC's evidence is pretty impressive. He knows his stuff.

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 20:36

JC is now being questioned by Karen Bastow in relation to his report so I am assuming he was accepted as an expert.

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 20:33

Apparently it's 1.32 their time and James Cantor is still giving evidence.

Signalbox · 31/10/2023 20:31

I've only just joined this evening so not quite sure where we are up to.

Impossiblenurse · 31/10/2023 20:20

I've logged in but waiting for host to join wondering if BST has buggered up my timing? My t&t bucket is now empty so fingers crossed I don't have more visitors. Mortified I mis charactered a creeper when I thought it was a roblox.

CyberCritical · 31/10/2023 18:57

Anyone listening in tonight? I'm on door duty for trick or treaters so don't think I'll get to for at least a couple of hours.

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