Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

She's basically trying to get the panel to agree that Amy is a liar.

That Amy said on Friday that she didn't want to talk about her advocacy or this case at work, if that is the case says BF, then why is Amy mentioning the case on Twitter at all. The fact that Amy is tweeting about the case means she does want to talk about it which means she lied on Friday.

BF is missing the fact that part of why Amy spoke up on Twitter was that she needed funding and legal representation to fight this stupid case and publicity is the way to get that. The college has effectively forced her to 'go public' whether she likes it or not, because without the public sight she would either need to find thousands to pay the lawyers or she would need to go unrepresented.

BF is trying introduce tweets that were not part of the college's claim and were dated subsequent to it. Bildy objects because the tweets were subsequent to the college's claim. BF claims the tweets are not part of the claim but the reasons she wants to question Amy on them is that they contradict Amy's testimony that she didn't want to get involved in any of this. I'm not what BF is trying to do here but she seemed to imply that Amy wasn't sincere because she continued her advocacy, told her followers about the hearings and what was happening to her. BF implied that if Amy had been sincere she would have submitted meekly and quietly to the disciplinary hearing and stopped her advocacy!

Impossible - BF was trying to make a case that AH wasn't an innocent person who didn't want to be dragged into all this (as she had testified on Friday) because she had been tweeting about the tribunal after her submissions, so that makes her statement on Friday wrong (subtext - she is a raging transphobe activist that is doing this because she is a unreasonable, hateful transphobic bigot).

Her counsel objected on the grounds that AH's submission was made back when, and AH was under no obligation to sit still (like a good girl) and that any tweets after her submissions are not relevant.

The panel has adjourned to look at the tweets and also for their lunch break.

Note - In contrast to our tribunals, the amount of breaks, lunch breaks and panel consultations off camera are astounding.

So I've just joined on the tail end of an objection...I think ...and now they've broken for lunch. Bildy sounded pretty cross, suggesting bf "putting words in AH mouth" to make case fit the narrative. And closing screen of bf was a little unflattering... but I'd love to know what I missed. Anyone out there able to summarise further?

It's like listening to paint dry. She has such an odd monotone and pacing to her speech it's actually difficult to follow the sentences and understand the argument shes making.

BF - Miss Hamm hasn't sat quietly waiting for her fate.

WTF

BF trying to introduce post case closed tweets is being argued against.

I like Lisa Billy, I would like BF to retreat to a hermit lifestyle and move herself to a cave somewhere.

BF is throwing as much bullshit as she can instead of arguing the points. It is painful to listen to.

Just tuning in now, been doing dinner, looking forward to hearing BF making more of a tit of herself.

BF now cross examining AH - and being as rude as ever.

That was an interesting read. She’s far more organised and active than I realised, which makes the case less unlikely.

It tried hard to make her look bad, yet still fails unless you buy into the ideology whole heartedly.

And another cbc article.

Here's a summary of today's events.

Totally agree. What strikes me is that phrase 'the process is the punishment'. She is calm and graciousness through the process. She's been amazing.

Amy doing amazingly isn't she? So calm and articulate.
She has been through so much shit!

I just found this. No idea if I've got kicked out of the session or not. They have all gone off to discuss whether evidence is admissible - ie the four JKR tweets - which Lisa Bildy got Amy Hamm to read out (they sounded so normal, sensible, and realistic) - and then pages of the abuse JKR got in return, which they didn't read out. LB said it gave context to the situation AH found herself in. BF (what's with the ee cummings tribute?) objected and said wasn't relevant.

Just dipping back into the hearing so I'm conscious that I've missed stuff, but just hearing Barbara trying to get boodleoops article dismissed as evidence of the link to Amy's billboard supporting JK's tweets and the context of the atmosphere of death and rape threats.

As ever, as much as I know the extent of ideological capture (and that Barbara is paid for this), it's shocking to see another woman be able to see and read the attacks on JK and say 'it's nothing, it's not relevant, get it away'.

You must have to be so deep into the ideological belief to be able to go home at night and sleep well, knowing you are throwing all previous knowledge of women's fight for rights, abuse, the need to define ourselves, to champion this cause that supports mainly men.

Found this from back in 2022 listing who may speak:

Dr. Kathleen Stock, a UK academic who has written widely on the topic of this conflict of rights; from Dr. Miriam Grossman, a psychiatrist who has been warning about the dangers of gender ideology, especially related to children, for decades; from Dr. Linda Blade, a former Canadian national athlete and now coach, who has written a book about the impact of gender ideology on women’s sports; and Heather Mason, a former federal inmate who has devoted her efforts to protecting vulnerable and marginalized women in Canada’s prisons from gender ideology.

www.cawsbar.ca/post/amy-hamm-bccnm-disciplinary-hearing-opening-submissions-by-lisa-bildy-j

Oh brilliant Amy's up.

I believe Kathleen stock and coach Linda blade

Cantor making a case that the medical community should be researching no harm options, such as borderline personality disorder (for which there are treatments) before going down the demonstrably harmful medical intervention route. But he argues that this has not be allowed to happen.

Signal - I am not sure, but I did hear her name spoken yesterday. Will have a search and see

Chilling19 do you know if Kathleen Stock was OK'd as an expert witness?

On a break waiting for the panel to put questions to JC. Not sure who the next witness is.