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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 21:42

Or even this

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 21:41

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 21:36

'If someone else was to write an article about something that hasn't happened saying it provided something, would you change your mind?'

What answer could any reasonable person give other than, I don't know I'd need to read it and see what evidence and who had reviewed it.

And if someone says x is y, and b is zero...would you change your mind then? Amy saying she'd have to read the evidence and come to her own conclusion based on the evidence. But couldn't comment on a hypothetical..chefs kiss. Well done Amy.

I was desperate for religious comparator. So i was pleased she drew comparison here. I do not have religious faith and yet I am interested in, and supportive of, other people's religious beliefs.

toomanytrees · 06/11/2023 21:41

BF seems to be fishing for a gotcha, but I'm not sure what that gotcha would be. Maybe BF doesn't know either.

transbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 21:40

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:36

This is great. bf has clearly never argued these points beyond her echo chamber before and thought it would be easy having it out with a hateful-bigot-TERF.

OK, in honour of your post, this is my new username 😂

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:40

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:34

I wonder if the college are regretting using BF?

Maybe they struggled to find someone who would take the case on.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:38

It is heartening to know that even in woke Canada, the legal system (in this case anyway) is not allowing a transbulldozing.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:36

This is great. bf has clearly never argued these points beyond her echo chamber before and thought it would be easy having it out with a hateful-bigot-TERF.

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 21:36

'If someone else was to write an article about something that hasn't happened saying it provided something, would you change your mind?'

What answer could any reasonable person give other than, I don't know I'd need to read it and see what evidence and who had reviewed it.

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 21:35

Crikey, so clutching at straws. Bf super loud today... but confused...so we are having another break. For goodness sake this is ridiculous.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:34

I wonder if the college are regretting using BF?

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:32

AH comparing a person who believes they have a GI to a person who believes they have a sole. Perfect analogy.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:32

Yes.

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 21:31

She's really going over and over this, desperate to get Any to say something that can be picked out as a quote for an 'Amy hamm is transphobic' headline.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:30

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 21:27

I'm pretty sure she's trying to get Amy to say the words " all trans people have a mental illness or sexual paraphilia"

Yes, and AH is not going for it.

I think BFs approach is to go round the houses and hope that her 'victims' will trip themselves up.

So, she is bringing the TRA 'argument' into the legal world and it doesn't wash. As we know.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:27

bf's questions are very confusing.

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 21:27

I'm pretty sure she's trying to get Amy to say the words " all trans people have a mental illness or sexual paraphilia"

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:27

She's doing well. bf is confusing herself.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:26

AH - not being cornered here.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:21

Now bf querying Amy's stated position that she doesn't believe in gender identity.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:20

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:18

This line of questioning is weird. Surely she's not obliged to accept intersectionality as a concept simply because it featured on an optional course that she took on trans healthcare.

She is just waffling. None of her approach makes any sense.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 21:18

This line of questioning is weird. Surely she's not obliged to accept intersectionality as a concept simply because it featured on an optional course that she took on trans healthcare.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:13

*Canada ( autocorrect is a bit fierce on Mumsnet)

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:13

Because if AH wins then Canadian has its Forstater ruling. And they don't want that to happen.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:08

TBH the panel could not have made any other decision without giving grounds for an appeal. As I said earlier BF is trying to kick this down the road.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 21:07

OK, the panel upholds Bildys objection. Good.