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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:29

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 22:26

My sound cut out again. Thanks for the clarification re fudging the issue. How long is this break anticipated? I mean they are pretty prompt at coming back but haven't they just had lunch?what's this break for?

Think it's the afternoon tea break. Probably back around 22.40

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:29

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 22:26

My sound cut out again. Thanks for the clarification re fudging the issue. How long is this break anticipated? I mean they are pretty prompt at coming back but haven't they just had lunch?what's this break for?

This is their actual break, 20 mins.

The break before that was to talk about whether Amy should be forced to use the term BF wants her to when describing men in frocks.

The break before that was to deal with an objection raised about evidence Bf wanted to submit I think

The break before that was because BF needed a pause because 'she was getting a bit confused'.

There was a lunch break somewhere in there too.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:28

I'm so annoyed on Amy's behalf!

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:27

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 22:26

My sound cut out again. Thanks for the clarification re fudging the issue. How long is this break anticipated? I mean they are pretty prompt at coming back but haven't they just had lunch?what's this break for?

Who knows? Although lots of sit downs needed here.

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 22:26

My sound cut out again. Thanks for the clarification re fudging the issue. How long is this break anticipated? I mean they are pretty prompt at coming back but haven't they just had lunch?what's this break for?

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:25

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:24

So that was a ' we don't really want to rule on this one so do what you like, but it would be nice if you used these terms if you are ok with that' decision, then they've all gone for a bit of a sit down.

I think we have all gone for a bit of a sit down 😂

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:24

So that was a ' we don't really want to rule on this one so do what you like, but it would be nice if you used these terms if you are ok with that' decision, then they've all gone for a bit of a sit down.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:24

Result - the panel would ask for the terms so far used be adhered to, but we won't compel the witness to do so.

Fudge of the highest order.

If I was Amy, I would state that she will adhere to the panel's request, but as a courtesy only.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:23

Canada is fucked.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:22

So AH not able to use the term male anymore to refer to male people.

Impossiblenurse · 06/11/2023 22:15

Crikey annnd another break. I'm on an early tomorrow so I'm not going to be able to follow this for much longer.

Really looking forward to performing last rites on the dearly departed cis? Fingers crossed. My rage gauge went to 10 when the non binaries were wheeled out uncontested, and the peppering of cis all over the place is just inflaming.

Very proud of Amy right now all the gibberish is laid out quite nicely.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:09

BF - clutching at straws now, which she has been doing throughout. So, by all means, if we are going with compelled speech, CIS has got to go too.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:05

This will be outrageous if they compel her language.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:05

BF - you are on a losing wicket now. You cannot compel speech.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:04

Good objection.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:04

LB objects to compelling of language.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:04

So, BF stop using 'cis' women then.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:04

bf asking for a ruling that AH has to use trans woman rather than as men/male

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:03

She's trying to get Amy to state on record whether or not Transwomen are at risk in male spaces.

Amy is not an expert on criminal statistics for crimes against Trans women and not wanting to keep repeating myself but..........

ITS GOT FUCK ALL TO DO WITH THE CASE! The case is about whether or not Amy bought the college into dispute by posting on social media and linking it to her career.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:03

AH refusing to use the term trans woman rather than trans identified male.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:03

bf demanding that AH use trans women rather than trans identified male.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 21:59

BF - you will agree with me....

No, I wouldn't.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 21:52

Go Amy! You are doing well here.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 21:48

Ooo - mention of Pritzker family.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 21:43

Impossible 'So i was pleased she drew comparison here. I do not have religious faith and yet I am interested in, and supportive of, other people's religious beliefs.'

Yes, me too.

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