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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:18

This really is Kafkaesque.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:16

BF trying to say there is no evidence that TW pose any threat to women.

AH gives another eg

BF that's just an anecdote. You have no research to contradict Dr Bower

AH - no research cos women who try to address this get death/rape threats and lose our jobs.

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 23:15

BF - not winning the argument.
AMY - Bring up safeguarding which starts from everyone is able to do harm.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:14

AH repeating over and over - males as a sex class pose a risk to females as a sex class and that is the basis of needing sss. TW are biologically male and so belong to the same sex class that pose a risk to women.

BF having a good think about that

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:12

BF: Your position - that there shouldn't be anyone in a female only space who wasn't assigned female at birth - is based on the pathogen disgust reaction described by Dr Bower

AH: an outrageous accusation. False. I welcome trans people into spaces. It's nothing to do with a pathogen disgust, just the threat that male people are to female people.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:11

Pathogen disgust in washrooms? What is she talking about?

BH - trying to align not wanting TIM in bathrooms with this.

Ridiculous.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:10

I think LB is losing the will to live. I thought she was going to object when bf started with the racial segregation.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2023 23:08

This is great, thanks so much for the live reporting.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:07

Not women's problem if transwomen are scared of using the men's bathroom.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:05

BF - give it up please.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:03

I support Vancouver rape crisis centre monthly.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:02

bf: a woman might be triggered by a woman with a penis
AH: I don't believe women have penises

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:00

BF - still trying to push the exclusion angle.

We are not men's shields.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:57

Yes

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:56

Amy: danger is from the male sex class however they identify.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:56

AH - why bother your house because they can come through the windows

😂

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:50

AH - making it clear that transmen are welcome in women's spaces. First mention of them.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 22:50

Glad that Amy has carried on using "male" to describe "transwomen".

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:44

Fucking CIS gender women.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:43

Cadburys anything = 😌

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:42

I'm going to regret staying up to listen to this. Had Covid for a couple of weeks and it won't go away, been knackered for 2 weeks, on/off fevers including today. Feel like I should go to bed like a sensible grown up but instead I will stay up drinking Diet Coke, eating a big bar of Cadburys Marvellous creations (the smarties/jellybeans/popping candy one) and making sarcastic comments.

Then I'll be a mardy bitch at work tomorrow. Yay!

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:33

In fact I feel like we are watching an American sitcom - 10 mins of dialogue, 15 mins of adverts.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:31

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:30

Oh and a break for Amy to read the evidence that BF wanted to submit that was subsequently objected to.

Masterful tracking of the breaks there Cyber.

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 22:30

Oh and a break for Amy to read the evidence that BF wanted to submit that was subsequently objected to.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 22:30

Thinking about it, the panel played a blinder there. If they had insisted on the compelled speech angle, that could have a) been written into tribunal law and b)opened up the proceedings to an appeal. In fact the panel are negotiating this very well in my opinion. Although I may change my mind after the outcome is published. But I remain hopeful.

Amy you are doing a great job so far.