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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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chilling19 · 07/11/2023 17:32

Trans lesbians - AH - don't believe that men can be lesbians and confirms that lesbian spaces should not be open to TW

chilling19 · 07/11/2023 17:31

BF - panel now forcing AH to answer 'if your advocacy is successful this will mean transwomen will...

...have less places in a women's only refuges = theoretically
...have less participation in women only sports = can play in their sex class
...will have less rooms to access in universities = lots of other beds
...girl guides would stop admitting TW = child safeguarding issue
...academic scholarship and grants = transmen can apply
...females only committees = yes

It is not incumbent on women to sort this out, but support TW advocating for third spaces

...

CyberCritical · 07/11/2023 17:27

These statements are frustrating. The answer of course to all of them is 'yes', yes if my advocacy works there will be less/no TW in women's spaces, but Amy needs to avoid saying yes because BF is going for a gotcha.

chilling19 · 07/11/2023 17:11

BF - still trying to gotcha AH

AH standing firm - am only an advocate for women and children

CyberCritical · 07/11/2023 15:53

Thanks @chilling19 that's better for me, thought I was going to have to do a work meeting in one ear and this in the other.

chilling19 · 07/11/2023 15:42

CyberCritical · 07/11/2023 15:20

Is it 4pm that this starts today? Really want to catch the beginning before BF finishes her questioning of Amy

I think I heard the chair say 9am their time, so that is 5pm ours

CyberCritical · 07/11/2023 15:20

Is it 4pm that this starts today? Really want to catch the beginning before BF finishes her questioning of Amy

CyberCritical · 07/11/2023 08:37

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:41

BF wants to stop and finish tomorrow so she can consolidate her notes or whatever. That seems deliberate, to keep AH on the hook overnight.

If i were I'd be writing a list of crimes men in women's prisons had committed that were proven and reading up on Dr Bowers study because I'd want to be able to answer in a way that makes BFs head explode.

Dr B says 60% TW fear harm in male toilets, it's a study of 10 people from a preselected biased group and 'harm' includes hurty feelings - or whatever the real numbers and facts are. (I haven't actually read the study and have made these numbers up).

BF was clearly angling for Amy to say 'yes TW are at risk, I don't care and they don't deserve equal rights' and she'll have spent the night trying ti write questions that lead her to that goal.

Signalbox · 07/11/2023 08:23

Kathleen Stock has tweeted that if all goes to plan she will be giving evidence this evening at some point.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:43

If they had Forstater - Amy's argument would be women's spaces are not transphobic. The end.

toomanytrees · 06/11/2023 23:42

BF is trying to get Amy to admit that her advocacy for sex segregated spaces will cause harm to transgender people (based on testimony from Dr Bauer). Amy holding firm. Well done, Amy.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:41

BF wants to stop and finish tomorrow so she can consolidate her notes or whatever. That seems deliberate, to keep AH on the hook overnight.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:41

BH - losing the whole argument. Let's have another break.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:35

AH women are starting to suffer from the urinary leash again because of self ID. Third spaces would be great. I advocate for women and children.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:34

bf is just like a really inarticulate 15 year old trans activist on Twitter.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:34

Still, we are not men's shields

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:32

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:31

AH brings in the eg of the rapist who raped a baby and is now housed in a women's prison which has a mother and baby unit.

BF: I'm going to move one to another question

Obviously

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:31

AH brings in the eg of the rapist who raped a baby and is now housed in a women's prison which has a mother and baby unit.

BF: I'm going to move one to another question

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:28

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:25

BF reminds me of one of those zombie caterpillars which has been taken over by a parasitic wasp and is doing its bidding. Does she not realise that as a woman and a lesbian she is actively acting against her own interests. [I know it's her job...]

She believes that TWAW so she may only identify as a lesbian.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:28

BF - still pushing the marginalised angle.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:25

BF reminds me of one of those zombie caterpillars which has been taken over by a parasitic wasp and is doing its bidding. Does she not realise that as a woman and a lesbian she is actively acting against her own interests. [I know it's her job...]

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:21

We don't care if all the captured institutions say different. Which is the whole point really.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:19

AH - good point that the reason there is no research (apart from the research that shows that men commit 90+% of crimes) because no-one is not allowed to research.

Also, we don't care about what WPATH has to say.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:19

AH: for me, one example of a women being raped/harmed is enough.

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 23:19

Do you get the feeling that if Lisa Billy or Amy Hamm could reach through the phone lines and throttle BF they would

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