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Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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chilling19 · 18/03/2024 18:47

<bangs head on coffee table>

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 18:45

At times she sounds a bit tipsy. Just the accent I am sure but cringy to listen to.

Edited to say, it is MY accent too (Canadian here) so I am not being mean

chilling19 · 18/03/2024 18:39

Oh she is back 😩

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 18:39

nauticant · 18/03/2024 18:39

bf confirms she's going to be continuing. Everyone sighs inwardly.

I know I did

nauticant · 18/03/2024 18:39

bf confirms she's going to be continuing. Everyone sighs inwardly.

toomanytrees · 18/03/2024 18:38

So far, BF's statement was largely a long drawn out fictional story about a poor, vulnerable transwoman who was among other tropes to numerous to mention, misgendered in an airport and questioned in a woman's washroom. There was the occasional reference to the law and the College's (crazy) expert witnesses.

nauticant · 18/03/2024 18:28

bf's way of dealing with that is that even if AH was able to rein herself in in such an interaction, there's a risk that the highly vulnerable transwoman would spot that the medical worker was a notorious transphobe and that could involve them being harmed. For example, by fleeing a clinic and not getting essential healthcare.

Signalbox · 18/03/2024 18:25

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 18:15

I don't get the argument. Resp. said she would feel it a conflict of interest to deal with gender aff. care, but BF tries to make one imagine what a TW might think if Amy was their nurse? I am also dealing with DGC, so apologies if I have it wrong

I think AH said she wouldn't work in the field of gender medicine due to conflict of interest. But bf submitted that if a trans woman turned up at Amy's workplace they would have to deal with Amy in that situation regardless. Thing is in Amy's evidence she said that she had worked with trans people previously and there has never been any complaints about her work. If I recall correctly Amy also said in her evidence that she would use preferred pronouns in a work situation and has always followed her work protocols on dealing with trans people so these scenarios that bf has come up with are really not relevant.

fallfallfall · 18/03/2024 18:19

logged in in time for the break :(

nauticant · 18/03/2024 18:19

Paraphrasing: Nothing that has occurred in any other jurisdiction can be accepted as a fact because it has happened outside of where the laws of Canada apply.

nauticant · 18/03/2024 18:16

bf claiming there's "no evidence about a Culture War" or that there's no evidence that people have been cancelled for their views, or that institutions have enabled such cancellation. bf's approach is that nothing in Amy Hamm's submission can be accepted if it doesn't have a footnote.

chilling19 · 18/03/2024 18:16

Amy not happy on Twitter, no wonder she has her camera off.

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 18:15

I don't get the argument. Resp. said she would feel it a conflict of interest to deal with gender aff. care, but BF tries to make one imagine what a TW might think if Amy was their nurse? I am also dealing with DGC, so apologies if I have it wrong

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2024 18:12

She should get the Nobel prize for hyperbole.

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 18:11

More racial comparisons. Now suicide.

chilling19 · 18/03/2024 18:11

OK so we have comparisons to racism of black people, now indigenous people.

AutumnCrow · 18/03/2024 18:02

Signalbox · 18/03/2024 18:00

It's such a shame that Canada doesn't have the equivalent of Forstater.

Or even the first tier Phoenix. 'Like a racist ...' Er, no. Pay up.

chilling19 · 18/03/2024 18:02

Signalbox · 18/03/2024 18:00

It's such a shame that Canada doesn't have the equivalent of Forstater.

Yes, it is becoming more and more apparent just how important Maya's fight was. As ever, thank you Maya.

Signalbox · 18/03/2024 18:01

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2024 18:00

Can I "identify as a nurse" or does it actually mean anything?

It's so odd to use this language in relation to nursing.

Signalbox · 18/03/2024 18:00

It's such a shame that Canada doesn't have the equivalent of Forstater.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2024 18:00

Can I "identify as a nurse" or does it actually mean anything?

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 18:00

Here we go. Respondent is compared to a racist now. Do I need a bingo card? Did everyone else get one?

chilling19 · 18/03/2024 17:59

ILikeDungs · 18/03/2024 17:56

Why, at this stage, are all the old tropes being dragged out?

They are old tropes to us in the UK because of Forstater. I think this is Canada's equivalent which it is why Amy needs to win.

Signalbox · 18/03/2024 17:59

Ffs using the segregation argument now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2024 17:59

It's such disgusting gaslighting.

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