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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

Sad
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LouisaGuy · 20/04/2024 15:31

And me

Calyx72 · 20/04/2024 13:25

Me. What do I do / how do I nominate?

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VenusEnvyXX · 20/04/2024 13:07

I'm going to stand for council. It's easiest to fix things from the inside.

Who wants to help me? I'll need nominations...

VenusEnvyXX · 19/04/2024 14:17

Well, they have.

We can't argue or they'll report us to the HCPC. It's honestly chilling.

RadFiz · 19/04/2024 13:36

I was thinking about the discussion that started this thread 2 years ago and how, unlike then, there’s silence on the current thread from any TRAs. Is it because they think the publishing of the statement means they’ve won?

RethinkingLife · 19/04/2024 10:37

LouisaGuy · 19/04/2024 10:28

I'm just so angry about it all. Is the aim of this for all so called GC physios to leave the CSP? I'm conflicted as to whether to stay and try and get involved to stop this shit show or leave the bastards to it

If your governance doesn't allow you to challenge this, is it worth contacting Sex Matters to explore any options? (And, revise your profession's governance!)

I keep discovering new ways in which professions, organisations etc. have been captured. There has to be a means of contesting this before the only options is parallel structures.

LouisaGuy · 19/04/2024 10:29

Meant to say so called transphobic 🤦🏻‍♀️

LouisaGuy · 19/04/2024 10:28

I'm just so angry about it all. Is the aim of this for all so called GC physios to leave the CSP? I'm conflicted as to whether to stay and try and get involved to stop this shit show or leave the bastards to it

highame · 19/04/2024 09:00

This is fantastic! Do you remember when we warned ourselves about Zombie threads. What a great change, now an old thread being resurrected is allowing us to refresh our knowledge and update. Thanks Op

RadFiz · 19/04/2024 08:51

Calyx72 · 18/04/2024 21:22

Agreed. That's why I started the thread way back. It's awful.

Very glad you did. I can’t believe it’s been going for over 2 years now!

Calyx72 · 18/04/2024 21:42

Posted too soon! I meant to say it's everyone posting that gives me comfort and hope. It's good to know others feel the same.

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Calyx72 · 18/04/2024 21:41

Thanks 🙏🏻 Flowers

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bringmelaughter · 18/04/2024 21:32

So glad you did @Calyx72. It’s an important space where thoughts can be shared safely.

Calyx72 · 18/04/2024 21:22

Agreed. That's why I started the thread way back. It's awful.

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bringmelaughter · 18/04/2024 19:53

There is a further worrying aspect that no one on the comments has picked up. Aside from Elaine, Rob and one person in support of the statement, all other comments are anonymous.

We really do not have psychological safety as a profession and this demonstrates it. There is no engaging in even gentle, let alone robust, discussion that we should be able to have as clinicians.

The CSP should be encouraging respectful and robust discussion. Instead they are shutting it down. There is no room for nuance or an acknowledgment of complexity. It is all so disappointing.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 18/04/2024 17:43

Not now, I think just raising it would be transphibic and the words would be removed.

RethinkingLife · 18/04/2024 15:13

VenusEnvyXX · 18/04/2024 14:46

This is chilling and again, I don't think it's legal.
x.com/RobYeldham/status/1780933703801135385

What are your governance structures?

Are there no avenues to explore to ask for equity of consideration for GC beliefs?

VenusEnvyXX · 18/04/2024 14:46

This is chilling and again, I don't think it's legal.
x.com/RobYeldham/status/1780933703801135385

Calyx72 · 18/04/2024 11:19

Oh dear that's awful Envy (not envy)

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VenusEnvyXX · 18/04/2024 00:02

For clarity...

WPATH are a patient/fetishist lobby group. POGP are a charity which exists to support some of its members.

Arf.

VenusEnvyXX · 18/04/2024 00:01

Reduxx has a big reach. It looks like a small site, but, it's mined by journalists for stories and shouldn't be dismissed as a "niche feminist news site".

I'll attach their work on WPATH and it's Eunuch Files - but please be aware that it is awful stuff.

WPATH is what the POGP base their trans advice on. I did offer to help but they preferred to get advice from someone's trans identified relative than from me. To be fair, lots of NHS resources quote WPATH because WPATH positioned themselves as experts. They are not a serious organisation, they are a patient/festishist lobby group.

https://reduxx.info/academics-involved-with-top-transgender-health-authority-publish-paper-on-choosing-castration/

Academics Involved With Top Transgender Health Authority Publish Paper on "Choosing Castration" - Reduxx

Academics affiliated with a top transgender health association have released a paper in collaboration with participants of a castration fetish forum that hosts fantasy child sexual abuse material. On November 3, the Archives of Sexual Behavior publishe...

https://reduxx.info/academics-involved-with-top-transgender-health-authority-publish-paper-on-choosing-castration/

Calyx72 · 17/04/2024 22:29
Shock

I am glad this has been picked up and reported on.

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bigcheesematrix · 17/04/2024 19:08

Have been lurking on this thread for sometime, as a physio working in the NHS (community therapy).
Re. Unions. I am covered for professional and public liability via my Trust's legal scheme, so have been looking for an alternative union for employment rights and support.
A couple of people have mentioned the Free Speech Union but on reading its website, the packages include things like 'help and support' and the obvious focus on defending free speech, however, it's not clear whether this is the same type of support you'd get from a trade union for employment issues. Can anyone advise?
Otherwise, I have been looking at Unite (decided not to go there) and Unison (also apparently captured). Any thoughts?

VenusEnvyXX · 17/04/2024 17:49

10 min call to the council webinar.

If you fancy joining to watch to see what they are looking for in a council member or if you fancy standing, then, I'll see you there.

This is lifted from my registration booking.

"After we have forwarded the link to you, as below, your email will be deleted, we are not retaining who attends this session.

Elections webinar details:

The CSP Governance Team are hosting an informal webinar session for members interested in finding out more about what it is like to sit on CSP Council.

This will be an informal session, hosted by the Head of Governance, for members to find out what is involved in sitting on CSP Council and ask questions about the role and / or the elections process.

Webinar participants are anonymous to each other and can post questions anonymously throughout the session.

The webinar will take place on Wednesday 17 April at 6pm, the link to join the webinar is below.

https://csp-org-uk.zoom.us/j/93957308082

If you have any further questions, please contact [email protected]

VenusEnvyXX · 17/04/2024 17:43

No, @tonybasil membership is not obligatory.

You would lose your insurance and trade union protections, though.

There are alternatives, I know many private physios left and found other insurance. I joined the Free Speech Union who are very good, if very busy.

https://freespeechunion.org/join/

You have to be registered with the HCPC to work as a physiotherapist and if you are not then you cannot call yourself a physiotherapist.

There doesn't seem to be anything preventing a person struck off from calling themselves, say, "frank, funny, factual, feminist, formerly Fellow, formerly fanny physio" though.

Which has a certain ring to it, no?

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