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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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RadFiz · 11/07/2024 23:07

The email newsletter is imploring us to celebrate international non-binary day now. There really is a day for everything, isn’t there?

FrothyCothy · 05/07/2024 08:26

After the social work England/Meade judgement, all regulators will be taking a more cautious approach to protected speech

RadFiz · 05/07/2024 08:17

Anklesprainssuck · 04/07/2024 19:33

There is a need in this day and age for guidance, especially with ensuring you separate what you present in a professional vs personal capacity.
However, it concerns me that you can have someone who is vexatious who will trawl you on the web and try and ruin your career based on personal tweets made in 2015

There was a case recently where a relatively prominent sports physio was reported for tweets from many years ago. He talked about it on X at the time but I think the case against him collapsed.

Anklesprainssuck · 04/07/2024 19:33

There is a need in this day and age for guidance, especially with ensuring you separate what you present in a professional vs personal capacity.
However, it concerns me that you can have someone who is vexatious who will trawl you on the web and try and ruin your career based on personal tweets made in 2015

duc748 · 04/07/2024 18:23

Really dislike this trend of employers and others policing people SM posts, sometimes from way back when. Unfortunately, we're seeing more and more of it.

Anklesprainssuck · 04/07/2024 18:08

The new HCPC social media standards are coming into force on the 1st September and will also include any historic media activity.
https://www.csp.org.uk/frontline/article/social-media-pause-you-post
Section 1.7 of the standards requires registrants to ensure their ‘ personal values, biases and beliefs do not lead you to discriminate against service users, carers or colleagues’.

How will they quantify discrimination by what you say on social media?

They make reference to social media about religion (explained in the link- which could be a hot topic with a lot of Gaza/ Palestine/ Israel/ Religious conflict opinions on social media posts).

What if someone/ non binary colleague, for example, says they fear discrimination as they disagree on some gender critical views you have posted on social media.

It also lists private media - such as What’s app. Private should be in the name FFS.
Do we have to go back to whispering anything controversial these days ?

If the CSP is anything to go by I am not convinced the HCPC will follow ‘ worthy of respect in a democratic society’ - maybe I am just being cynical…

Social media: pause before you post

https://www.csp.org.uk/frontline/article/social-media-pause-you-post

Calyx72 · 30/06/2024 14:05

The RCN and other unions are noticeably absent from mention in the articles but I see Sex Matters helped the nurses get their own lawyers

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Anklesprainssuck · 30/06/2024 13:44

https://archive.ph/rolQO

Where has the RCN been with defending female nurses who have raised issues with males in changing rooms? ( news link above from the Times). Another female dominated profession with a substandard union. The BAOT is affiliated with UNISON I think.
Think they are all captured so will be following these cases closely.

Calyx72 · 30/06/2024 11:10

RadFiz · 29/06/2024 23:08

@Calyx72 I’ve heard the same from others who’ve heard him speak. A lot of waffle but very little of substance said.

He was diaried in for an hour
He arrived nearly 10 minutes late
First thing he did was get everyone (in the gym and on Teams) to introduce themselves with names and job titles Hmm there were over 30 of us
I was typing notes for myself (I have a rubbish memory) and I just kept writing 'waffle waffle blah blah'
He started with how he got out of uni, went straight to academia, then into management and executive jobs, oh by the way he was doing clinical - private paeds - then lost his NHS manager post due to "the conservatives" so he went to work for a charity (in a management job of course) because all he has ever wanted to do was work for and with people with disability
Our physio lead asked about workforce and I didn't hear anything of substance from him
He started asking the new grad band 5s "I haven't had a chance to ask but how did you feel about working for the NHS when you started? Excited? Nervous" Hmm I mean what good does that do anyone. One said "well I was glad to have a job" and that was really it. I had to leave after the hour and nothing of interest to us came up. I still don't know what the CSP are doing for me except liability insurance (and oh yes teaching me how microaggressive I am and how bigoted my beliefs are.)

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 30/06/2024 10:12

I think TRA’s are embedding themselves in the Royal College of Occupational Therapists too. Men targetting a predominantly women’s occupational group.

RadFiz · 29/06/2024 23:08

@Calyx72 I’ve heard the same from others who’ve heard him speak. A lot of waffle but very little of substance said.

Calyx72 · 29/06/2024 21:54

RadFiz · 29/06/2024 18:04

I see the society have been out at Pride today. Nothing wrong with that but note the t-shirts only mention trans rights!

I think that’s the CEO in yellow trousers. I’m also pretty sure that behind him, in what looks like a hat last seen in the SS, is our old friend Jack of the predatory women tweet. https://x.com/thecsp/status/1807054069040607291

Yes that's the CEO I think. He was at one of our physio departments in Scotland last week, I watched via Teams. A lot of waffle and I still don't feel my CSP fees are worth it.

I am so pissed off that so few people in our Union actually understand or even care to understand how women feel about this whole ideology and how threatened we are. Those brave nurses standing up for their single sex spaces from the trans-identified man had to find their own lawyers, why are unions so into this even in professions which are female dominated (numbers wise)

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Believerinbiology · 29/06/2024 19:01

Same story in Ireland...ISCP have webinar from TENI on Monday for pride. No other talks/initiatives mentioned on FB

RadFiz · 29/06/2024 18:04

I see the society have been out at Pride today. Nothing wrong with that but note the t-shirts only mention trans rights!

I think that’s the CEO in yellow trousers. I’m also pretty sure that behind him, in what looks like a hat last seen in the SS, is our old friend Jack of the predatory women tweet. https://x.com/thecsp/status/1807054069040607291

Calyx72 · 26/05/2024 10:41

Believerinbiology · 24/05/2024 10:58

Have lurked on this thread on and off for a while. Have stepped away from the profession for a number of years...burnout, disillusioned (e.g. told have to use gender, can't record sex in clinical research to pass ethics board even though would invalidate the research). Had hoped my former professional body would start to see sense but this popped up on my feed....
https://www.facebook.com/100064689216628/posts/pfbid027vGhu87oLZvWjXknAfrEqAks9J5nY2RpEdFFd6zDZmRBTMbbh3NSFgdRKimMVpTel/?app=fbl
Looks like nothing's changed.
Btw @VenusEnvyXX thank you, thank you, thank you for keeping confidently talking sense...at some point it has to sink in (I hope).

@Believerinbiology I totally agree with the frustration/anger about gender vs sex despite invalidation of research. Glad you have found us and I second your thanks to @VenusEnvyXX. Thanks to you all for the solidarity as well.

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Calyx72 · 26/05/2024 10:38

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13459927/NHS-chiefs-legal-action-female-nurses-changing-room-transgender.html

Apologies for the DM link but I am happy to see this.

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Believerinbiology · 26/05/2024 09:41

No my membership has lapsed so won't be able to. Seen as though Philippa Ryder and Joanna Harper presented their stories and 'research' at conference a few years ago I don't think it will be a sensible "treat everybody with respect but of course you don't need to deny reality" line and more a "treat the person as they say they are even if that's not in their best interest and breaches the boundaries of others".

Anklesprainssuck · 26/05/2024 09:19

Out of interest believerinbiology, will you be able to get access and see what the Irish CSP are presenting? ( looks like you need to be a member). Over the years I have worked with a number of Irish trained physio’s so interested in what their professional body is saying.

Believerinbiology · 24/05/2024 10:58

Have lurked on this thread on and off for a while. Have stepped away from the profession for a number of years...burnout, disillusioned (e.g. told have to use gender, can't record sex in clinical research to pass ethics board even though would invalidate the research). Had hoped my former professional body would start to see sense but this popped up on my feed....
https://www.facebook.com/100064689216628/posts/pfbid027vGhu87oLZvWjXknAfrEqAks9J5nY2RpEdFFd6zDZmRBTMbbh3NSFgdRKimMVpTel/?app=fbl
Looks like nothing's changed.
Btw @VenusEnvyXX thank you, thank you, thank you for keeping confidently talking sense...at some point it has to sink in (I hope).

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VenusEnvyXX · 06/05/2024 12:03

RadFiz · 06/05/2024 10:57

Let’s not forget that another member was previously accused of transphobia and stood for council and ended up getting elected. So if he can do it then so can you @VenusEnvyXX!

I heard there was something like 4.5k votes cast in that election and he got something like 4k of them. Arf.

VenusEnvyXX · 06/05/2024 12:01

The person on the exec I spoke to told me I am seen as divisive, that more than one person told this person that I am transphobic and that the person would not meet with me alone. So, it seems I am subject to reputational harm, which isn't a surprise but is rather confronting.

I'm being coy about the person because it was good that time was made for me and I did feel like what I said was heard - and I don't want to land them in it for the crime of meeting a heretic. I also think they were shocked by what I said - but then, any decent person would think being complicit in the wholesale sterilising of autistic kids is shocking.

My point was that physio has a role in the care of these people, but we can't set up services without a evidence based conversations.

RadFiz · 06/05/2024 10:57

Let’s not forget that another member was previously accused of transphobia and stood for council and ended up getting elected. So if he can do it then so can you @VenusEnvyXX!

LouisaGuy · 06/05/2024 10:55

Divisive? Who said that to you? It's meant to be a democratic process so the members can decide whether to elect you or not. Sounds like someone actively trying to put you off. What's behind that?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/05/2024 09:37

Fucking hell, Rob. He’s got some background in PR, I think? That’s a terrible response.

the other thread links to some official tweets which are ridiculous.