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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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RadFiz · 01/02/2025 15:37

northender · 01/02/2025 14:21

Has anyone else read the new Frontline re the new transgender guidance? I feel absolutely apoplectic! I am not going to post all of what I'd like to say but there is reference to colleagues needing to educate themselves. It's propaganda in word soup format. I'm 18 months away from taking my 1995 pension & I'm sorely tempted to cancel my membership. There is no challenge, no science, just appalling. What is happening in the other prof bodies at the moment? I feel like the CSP is forging a bit of a lone path?

The whole magazine is ridiculous this month. Purports to celebrate LGBT History Month yet it's all about the T. I could not have rolled my eyes harder at the article that used both he and they when talking about someone who is clearly female and then I came across the next article - a physio who is non-binary on account of wearing a man's undershirt, or some such nonsense!

northender · 01/02/2025 14:21

Has anyone else read the new Frontline re the new transgender guidance? I feel absolutely apoplectic! I am not going to post all of what I'd like to say but there is reference to colleagues needing to educate themselves. It's propaganda in word soup format. I'm 18 months away from taking my 1995 pension & I'm sorely tempted to cancel my membership. There is no challenge, no science, just appalling. What is happening in the other prof bodies at the moment? I feel like the CSP is forging a bit of a lone path?

RadFiz · 25/11/2024 19:16

The recording of the webinar is on the site now but it's over an hour long so I won't be watching.

RadFiz · 19/11/2024 20:19

VenusEnvyXX · 19/11/2024 14:51

Is anyone going to the online webinar tonight? I can't, I'm working, which might be a blessing.

https://www.csp.org.uk/news-events/events/events-listing/transgender-awareness-allyship

I didn't but I suspect any deviation from TWAW would get you booted from the webinar for transphobia.

ETA it says it'll be recorded and shared with members.

VenusEnvyXX · 19/11/2024 15:25

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 19/11/2024 14:54

I (correctly) guessed who that was.

Grief, these FTPs (presumably) take a long time. Unless a matter is egregious, I don't understand why the stress of such protracted proceedings is allowed to run for so long.

I haven't been following his case closely but I remember he tried to resign just to draw a line under it. You can't resign while you are under investigation.

I now know a few people, not just physios, who are going through the HCPC disciplinary process. I've yet to hear of a case which the average man on an omnibus would think was handled in a fair or reasonable way.

Best avoided, would be my advice.

VenusEnvyXX · 19/11/2024 15:20

RadFiz · 15/11/2024 08:08

Also interesting how they refer to single sex wards as "trans-exclusionary spaces" 🙄

Which is factually incorrect, single sex wards accommodate trans identified or NB females.

It's striking how the CSP focus is always on the males, isn't it?

VenusEnvyXX · 19/11/2024 15:19

I've been MIA, apologies. I was unwell but am back at work now, and trying hard not to get too frustrated with the CSP's continued un-evidenced approach to gender health issues.

My impression is there are some very noisy people on the council who like, eg TransActual's approach to talking about gender. I am surprised the CSP continues to link with TransActual, the person who set it up has some views on extreme pornography and women in general which are at odds with the way a professional organisation usually conducts itself. And I say that as a person who flies close to the professional wind.

A growing number of physios in the specialist interest group have said that they agree with me, that we are not addressing the needs of people with gender issues and are dismissing the rights of women, but, they are too afraid to speak up because they have seen what I have been subjected to.

I'm sympathetic about that, it's deeply unpleasant to be eg called a nazi and homophobe by professional peers. So is watching my professional body ignore evidence because people are too afraid to challenge it. Meanwhile, here's more solid evidence that physio has a role in managing this population's unwanted effects from transition - but we'd first need to acknowledge that there are unwanted effects from transition... females on cross sex hormones are left with sexual dysfunctions and pelvic floor disorders

Pelvic floor and sexual dysfunctions after genital gender-affirming surgery: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Pelvic floor dysfunctions following genital gender-affirming surgery are an emerging issue. Adequate information for each surgical procedure, explicit postoperative instructions, continuity of care, communication with healthcare providers, and recommen...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39545366/#:~:text=Among%20transmen%20who%20underwent%20hysterectomy,reported%20by%2054%25%20of%20patients.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 19/11/2024 14:54

VenusEnvyXX · 19/11/2024 14:45

He tweeted yesterday on his way to another hearing on that. Six years on. I don't know what happened, his tweet from a bus stop on the way home said "shit show"

I (correctly) guessed who that was.

Grief, these FTPs (presumably) take a long time. Unless a matter is egregious, I don't understand why the stress of such protracted proceedings is allowed to run for so long.

VenusEnvyXX · 19/11/2024 14:45

RadFiz · 05/07/2024 08:17

There was a case recently where a relatively prominent sports physio was reported for tweets from many years ago. He talked about it on X at the time but I think the case against him collapsed.

He tweeted yesterday on his way to another hearing on that. Six years on. I don't know what happened, his tweet from a bus stop on the way home said "shit show"

RadFiz · 15/11/2024 08:08

Also interesting how they refer to single sex wards as "trans-exclusionary spaces" 🙄

Calyx72 · 14/11/2024 19:14

It's full of "don't say breasts" and "be mindful that they may be binding or tucking" and "don't ask about transgender"

Basically treat them like we treat EVERY OTHER PATIENT THEN!?

Sigh

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RadFiz · 14/11/2024 16:57

Oh, they have released their trans treatment guidance. It's in the newsletter but I haven't read it yet. https://www.csp.org.uk/publications/working-transgender-people-physiotherapy-practice

Calyx72 · 13/11/2024 10:59

duc748 · 11/11/2024 23:13

Imagine being insulted by people you pay subs to. It's almost like being a Labour Party member! 😃

True!

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Calyx72 · 13/11/2024 10:58

LakeFlyPie · 11/11/2024 23:10

I feel similarly frustrated @Calyx72
Would you join an alternative union? If so which one?

Any one that would protect me legally or with work issues if needed; that also understands that they shouldn't get involved with political issues (including gender ideology) and that my beliefs on sex and "gender" are not anything to do with my work.

If I was accused falsely of 'transphobia' they would support and believe me.

Are there any like that for UK physios?

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duc748 · 11/11/2024 23:13

Imagine being insulted by people you pay subs to. It's almost like being a Labour Party member! 😃

LakeFlyPie · 11/11/2024 23:10

I feel similarly frustrated @Calyx72
Would you join an alternative union? If so which one?

Calyx72 · 11/11/2024 22:44

Honestly I have stopped reading Frontline and I am this close to cancelling my membership. All that money per month and for what? Gender ideologues who don't think my disbelief in gender is a valid point of view. And who think I am 'transphobic' and that we need to ' challenge transphobia' grrrrr

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RadFiz · 04/11/2024 18:12

The latest Frontline magazine urges us all to "commit to challenging transphobia", and it sounds like the new guidance on treating trans patients is nearly ready. There is a new chair of council - I wonder where she stands on the issue?

RadFiz · 27/09/2024 14:06

I don't think they are.

BettyFilous · 27/09/2024 12:20

RadFiz · 27/09/2024 09:11

Did anyone see the clip of the CEO talking about his bisexuality on Twitter the other day? He has been very low profile since he started so it's a bit odd that he chooses to speak out about this rather than say, pay or working conditions.

https://x.com/thecsp/status/1838172205257003284

Is the organisation in the Stonewall employers’ index? Visible leadership declarations like this can be useful for scoring extra marks in the annual return. /battle-hardenedcynicmode

RadFiz · 27/09/2024 09:11

Did anyone see the clip of the CEO talking about his bisexuality on Twitter the other day? He has been very low profile since he started so it's a bit odd that he chooses to speak out about this rather than say, pay or working conditions.

https://x.com/thecsp/status/1838172205257003284

Anklesprainssuck · 15/07/2024 19:42

Have any of you explored careers outside of Physiotherapy? What transferable skills can be used in other careers?
Just want some ideas as a starter.
I am NHS and it is really bad/ stressfull and not sure if can continue up until retirement. I have been speaking to friends who are in different careers whose take on the NHS is: the pensions/ sick pay keep people in it for far too long and there is life outside of the NHS.
Have looked at undergraduate education and to be honest I have friends who work in the university and that is no better.
i am happy to consider a pay cut- can’t really do that in the NHS as I do have some years in the final salary pension scheme and I am damned if I get less of a pension when I have given 30+ years of blood sweat and tears.

RadFiz · 12/07/2024 16:38

The newsletter also announced the new members of the council.

Calyx72 · 12/07/2024 07:07

I'm despairing at the CSP. Non-binary now. Arghhhh.

I note out of over 60k members they had only 4k votes for council members.
(I didn't vote because I couldn't see the point but if Elaine had run I would have!)

And HCPC new guidelines saying members mustn't bully anyone Hmm Come ON as if that hadn't been absolutely clear already. Does it mean members will be stopped from practicing if they aren't gender ideologists I wonder?

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