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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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TheGoogleMum · 18/02/2022 14:53

Ha the only physio I know is fully TWAW unfortunately

Calyx72 · 18/02/2022 13:23

I think we would need to discuss anonymously, off the iCSP board and probably off any NHS / work related platforms as well.

I have just seen the judgment on the 'Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) act 2018 which ForWomenScotland have tweeted and basically it says re: Equality Act, TWATW!

www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=6dda9e64-287e-4aef-be4f-7f4a47710690

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 18/02/2022 12:45

I'm a physio. I've been trying to find other members who are concerned about the SW influence.

You know our conference had make-your-own-avatar, but you couldn't make one with a disability? FFS.

There are groups of nurses, midwives and medics - they have written to their governing bodies.

If we want a group of physios to discuss what I missed on iCSP, then how do we do it?

As an aside to approach this issue with a spirit of enquiry and seek to listen to the lived experiences of trans women - not trans men, then?

DomesticatedZombie · 18/02/2022 10:38

We have more in common than divides us.

Even more true of men and "transwomen".

Yes. The entire movement is this huge rejection of 'male' and 'men', which remains a unique category in that it is both vilified yet somehow untouchable. Almost seems to conspire to solidify and cement a sex hierarchy. Instead of celebrating the variety and difference across sexes - instead of genuinely celebrating the diversity of 'gender', you could even say.

NecessaryScene · 18/02/2022 10:30

we cannot allow comments which undermine the legitimacy of trans women as women, or which cause hurt or alarm to trans members

But if you want to undermine the legitimacy of women, or cause hurt or alarm to female members, fill your boots.

We have more in common than divides us.

Even more true of men and "transwomen".

Why do they keep trying to divide men from transwomen? Confused

Calyx72 · 18/02/2022 10:25

It's been pulled.

"The CSP opposes transphobia www.csp.org.uk/frontline/article/promoting-equality-diversity-inclusion and we cannot allow comments which undermine the legitimacy of trans women as women, or which cause hurt or alarm to trans members, to remain on the iCSP member networks.

We apologise for not identifying this thread earlier and would encourage members who see anything of concern to raise them with us promptly, as we do not have the capacity or systems to enable real time moderation of comments.

We do recognise that this approach may be challenging for some members. We appreciate that not all comments on this issue are transphobic, and some which are experienced as such will not have been intended to be so.

We would encourage anyone who disagrees with our stance to approach this issue with a spirit of enquiry and seek to listen to the lived experiences of trans women. We have more in common than divides us."

So no discussion allowed from those of us who have (supposedly protected in law) gender critical beliefs.

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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 21:21

That's what I thought! Wanted to write that. Something like 'not very scientific'

The problem is the NHS and even the CSP are Stonewalled Angry

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WarriorN · 11/02/2022 21:16

They're brave. If there's one thing physios know it's the anatomy between the sexes!

Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 21:02

It's just not science
And it's a bullying typical message

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