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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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bringmelaughter · 10/08/2022 21:44

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/08/2022 14:28

Do we know who Jackson is? Does this deny my WORIADS?

Jackson Dempsey was a key CSP person when icsp started. Maybe in comms. I’m unsure what role he’s in now.

The shutting down of any sort of nuanced discussion about managing the needs of different people is so disappointing. As well as impacts on women, I’m not convinced that it serves trans people well to be considered exactly the same as people of the other sex.

@gussiegrips is much more eloquent about this but, if we consider people who are trans men to be men then do they receive the appropriate health messaging and care and the same for trans women.

I'm not sure I’m brave enough to go anywhere with this but I worry for all people accessing healthcare in a climate where there isn’t enough psychological safety to talk about challenging issues from different viewpoints where there can be competing needs at times.

RadFizz · 10/08/2022 21:40

The article was posted on another thread with a share token.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0ef73904-18ab-11ed-b4a0-f11f082a3a3c?shareToken=9086841b1851a93726804639c7ced9f1

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Calyx72 · 10/08/2022 21:14

Oh copy of Times article removed
Sorry I didn't realise it wasn't allowed to post the text Blush

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Calyx72 · 10/08/2022 19:33

Sorry the strikethroughs appeared with the copy paste (I am using the phone app)

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Calyx72 · 10/08/2022 19:32

This reply has been deleted

We've removed this because we think the content is from behind a paywall.

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Calyx72 · 10/08/2022 19:23

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hard-left-academics-plotted-gender-id-witch-hunt-on-colleagues-fdqnq5cb9

This is what I feel is coming to gender critical physiotherapists via our own union

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Greycatwhitepaws · 10/08/2022 18:37

How can one discuss the interrelationship between sex and gender, if one is not able to discuss sex.

TheBiologyStupid · 10/08/2022 18:15

Does this deny my WORIADS?

Absolutely it does!

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Calyx72 · 10/08/2022 16:17

I can't believe how much we pay the CSP (only for insurance really) and this happens Envy

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Calyx72 · 10/08/2022 16:16

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/08/2022 14:28

Do we know who Jackson is? Does this deny my WORIADS?

No idea but I definitely agree it's not fair/right for CSP to remove any statement that trans women are male (or vice versa) for all the reasons we have said. It's compelled belief/Stonewall land.

I won't resign yet but am metaphorically holding my finger over the resign button. Will see how this pans out.

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/08/2022 14:28

Do we know who Jackson is? Does this deny my WORIADS?

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/08/2022 14:19

I agree with Rob that there is misinformation - but most of it is coming from CSP exec and EDB committee and CSP/spinoff twitter.

I'm seriously considering leaving the CSP. I can get insurance elsewhere and I want no part of this level of incompetence which is doing harm.

I won't resign quietly, either.

RadFizz · 09/08/2022 21:19

Did he bother even reading the other comments?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/08/2022 16:10

Rob Yeldham has posted that there is misonformsiron about what employers require, added a link to equality employment stuff and no context.

im not sure what his point is. The thread isn’t about employment.

for a communication director his communication is opaque.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/08/2022 15:48

It’s just anti science. I’m inclined to let them just find their own tail and eat it. There is no end to the purity spiral, presumably that is why they are hiding their own replies?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/08/2022 15:47

RT by the Green Party spouting bollicks and getting pushback ans not support twitter.com/carla_denyer/status/1555630503394516992?s=21&t=2pl6Bp0vN--2rGFJW6SRoQ

and Darren Brown RTd. Of course.

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Calyx72 · 09/08/2022 15:10

Sorry that was about the Twitter item linked by @stealtheatingtunnocks and mentioned by @RadFizz

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Calyx72 · 09/08/2022 15:09

They are hiding replies Shock

Document links gc with far right etc.

Such rubbish!

Unprofessional, biased, one-sided and shutting down discussion.

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Greycatwhitepaws · 09/08/2022 08:58

Interesting how little reach is being achieved. The I am furious my union has achieved one like

RadFizz · 08/08/2022 22:50

It's concerning that the network is now apparently influencing policy but posts nonsense like that.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/08/2022 14:04

This is getting worse. twitter.com/csplgbtqia/status/1555196949070057472?s=21&t=yJW810tuOOoEnymJ4XSz2w

I might enter a prize draw. I think they should be compensating me for my forced participation.

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Calyx72 · 08/08/2022 12:44

I didn't enter the prize draw 😅

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/08/2022 10:08

Just got my member satisfaction survey from CSP. They ask about my politics and a lot about micro agggressions.

m they so mention sex as a characteristic. And if I understand allyship.

it is liked to my number I think so they know I’d I have opened it and responded?

I just answered it.
I told them how unsatisfied I am with censorship of gc voices on icsp

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/08/2022 10:08

Just got my member satisfaction survey from CSP. They ask about my politics and a lot about micro agggressions.

m they so mention sex as a characteristic. And if I understand allyship.

it is liked to my number I think so they know I’d I have opened it and responded?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/08/2022 17:22

You can Self identify as intersex? Isn’t that offensive?

intersec is a medical condition not an identity and not the same as deaf wheee some people don’t feel disabled by it?