UK Physios

I've just replied to Elaine's thread on twitter today. Tried to make it clear I'm a physio & I know I have physios following me who are fully TWAW so it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm having major gynae surgery on Monday so feeling a bit less fearful than usual & a bit angrier!

Someone has now commented about third-gender people in some cultures (like the Hijra) but I feel that misses the point others are trying to make. Wouldn't it fall under the CSP's definition of transphobia/misgendering to claim trans people are third-gender rather than TWAW/TMAM?

Rob has responded too, saying to contact Council members if you are concerned. In fact he's posted the same response to different people, which shows how engaged he is!

@stealtheatingtunnocks I think that refers to generating income from more people joining the CSP but the way they're going they'll be losing members before long.

FFS we are a profession grounded in science surely??? How is this happening?
I remember completing a CSP members attitudes survey or similar, about 2 years ago & refused to tick the "gender assigned at birth" box. I then stated my reasons in a free text box. I was raging then.

thanks @RadFizz “Income generation” - makes me wonder if they get money from pharmaceuticals like the Lib Dems do!

I am so cross about this. We can’t even talk openly because our words are redacted and we need to be anonymous. I feel bullied by my own profession.

@stealtheatingtunnocks he's not a communications officer, he's a communications director and very senior in the organisation. https://www.csp.org.uk/about-csp/who-we-are/organisationlt

I looked at the roles. Rob is a communication officer. I don’t know what that means. He’s not the best communicator. they are just repeating a script.

they are editing your post but not Elaine’s.
She said that TWANW but that remains unredacted . Are they scared of her?

Surely "misgendering" is if you refer to a particular trans woman as "he" or trans man as "she"? It's not misgendering to state a biological fact!

Oh I see Rob has replied but his answer is neither here nor there.

Elaine has posted again, asking for a response to her question. Are the entire management team utterly incompetent or something? This is getting ridiculous and they need to provide answers.

I have realised that I am actually upset by this. Not angry or scared, gutted.

my profession is going to be humiliated like the midwives were when Elaine Millar (it’s always her, isn’t it?) said a quote in the article about midwifery students being taught to catheterise penises. If my organisation says TWAW I need to leave because I don’t agree and don’t want to be linked with the terrible things done on the name of gender.

we have 2 women at the head of the body and union. I thought they were both great and I was expecting they’d get national honors for their work. But now, I think they will get sacked - how can weD an evidence based organisation - say such anti science and harmful nonsense?

the Buck stops with them. They either belive it too or are not brave enoygn to stand up to fetish man and RM and DB.

none If who have said anything on that thread. Even anonymous disagreement is missing.

I will be so cross if the women leading my organisation don’t at least listen to Elaine and Jack chew. They are not on their owne, plenty of us agree but at too scare to speak up.

what does that tell us about physiotherapy? I’m so upset. I love my job and am long qualified and I don’t worn to feel like it is a bullying organsiration

but it is.

I've been following the threads on icsp and have been liking yours and Elaine's posts, just need to summon the courage to post myself now. I despair, I really do, that it has come to this

New reply - Oh my goodness, Elaine ❤️❤️❤️
You are formidable and awesome and I actually love you.

Her posts are still there. I could've sworn she used to be on their spokespeople page but no longer is.

Oh, it was funny too! Very funny and clever. I like that she is bold to say the stuff most don’t. Both for the comedy and the drama.

I laughed am was horrified, often at the same time.

CSP didn’t remove her posts, did they?

I saw her Fringe show the other day. She doesn’t hold back about gender and sex in health. It is quite powerful, hearing a physio say “report me if you fee you need to, or come and talk to me”. I spoke a bit after, there are a lot of peoples wanting to talk so I just said I agreed and thanks and I’m watching iCSP. She said to be careful about what we post as it’s nt anonymous.

Maybe I’m reading to
much into it, but she is hard to disagree on this stuff, it’s as if she is goading someone into reporting ger. I don’t hunk the CSP or Edb committee know as much as she does, either the law or the physiology.