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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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Calyx72 · 25/06/2023 19:49

RadFizz · 25/06/2023 10:39

Does anyone go to the annual reps conference? I read the motions and among them was this. Why would CSP get involved in issues around trans kids? https://www.csp.org.uk/system/files/documents/2023-05/arc2023-motions1.pdf

"Right-wing media fuelled culture war" 🙄

Oh my god Shock

Exactly the right question there - what business is that of the CSP???

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RadFizz · 25/06/2023 10:39

Does anyone go to the annual reps conference? I read the motions and among them was this. Why would CSP get involved in issues around trans kids? https://www.csp.org.uk/system/files/documents/2023-05/arc2023-motions1.pdf

"Right-wing media fuelled culture war" 🙄

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Calyx72 · 16/06/2023 16:39

RadFizz · 16/06/2023 00:08

I heard a rumour via a colleague that the result of that "should CSP adopt a definition of transphobia?" survey from a few months ago is that they've decided to NOT adopt a definition. So perhaps there are more GC physios than we think and they all responded to that survey!

Oh that is good news, hope it's true

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 16/06/2023 10:36

I’d be interested in the results of that survey, I hope they publish the in frontline

RadFizz · 16/06/2023 00:08

I heard a rumour via a colleague that the result of that "should CSP adopt a definition of transphobia?" survey from a few months ago is that they've decided to NOT adopt a definition. So perhaps there are more GC physios than we think and they all responded to that survey!

Calyx72 · 15/06/2023 18:25

Agree with our professional selves being the best thing at work.

I think patients who have themselves got differences in gender identity, sexuality and so on, really don't need to (or WANT to) speak to a physio who has similarly differences. They are looking for assessment, education and rehabilitation etc not a bloody life partner.

Therapists need to be professional which of course means non-judgmental and inclusive.

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LakeFlyPie · 15/06/2023 14:33

RadFizz · 15/06/2023 14:15

I think what annoys me most about the concept is that it seems designed for white men who want to express a fetish, much like Leatherman.

If you're a person of colour or you have a visible disability then you haven't really got much choice except to be your "whole self" at work, and be judged for it.

I'd much rather we just brought our professional selves!

Exactly this!

RadFizz · 15/06/2023 14:15

I think what annoys me most about the concept is that it seems designed for white men who want to express a fetish, much like Leatherman.

If you're a person of colour or you have a visible disability then you haven't really got much choice except to be your "whole self" at work, and be judged for it.

I'd much rather we just brought our professional selves!

northender · 15/06/2023 12:39

Oh stealth I have one or two of those colleagues here too!!
Slightly off the overall topic, but I think it links in with the bringing your "whole self" into work thing, i am seeing a much less professional side to physios & OTs at the moment. I'm having to constantly nag remind staff about timekeeping & mobile phone use. Flexible working is being seen as a right with the expectation that work will have to fit around home life. Or maybe I'm just too old!!

stealtheatingtunnocks · 15/06/2023 07:51

Bringing your whole self to work is just creepy.

I have several colleagues that I’d like to get to leave quite a lot of themselves at home

namitynamechange · 14/06/2023 13:21

" If Jeffrey wants to come to the cricket, he’d be welcome"

God that third person thing is weird. It's like humouring a small child but also feels like mimicking people with multiple personality disorders.

Calyx72 · 14/06/2023 11:34

"Leather man" was who I thought of when I read this today. It's how I (and I think we on this thread) feel - what happened to decorum and dignity?

"I’m wearying of the arm-twisting demands that I must constantly celebrate other folks’ diversity, gender, sexuality, and every other aspect of their lives." www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/opinion/4472692/has-pride-gone-too-far-jim-spence-2/

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/06/2023 20:03

Does anyone listen to Dennis Kavanagh and Clive Simpson's podcast, The Queen's Speech?

Yesterday they spoke about Pride and a group of leather man when one leather man appeared to choke another on on a float. They discussed whether this was appropriate, said that leather men have been part of Pride forever but that it's gone very queer theory and choking isn't safe.

I wonder if we know the leather man? and if so, is engaging in or emulating a sex act in public upstanding behaviour for an HCP?

RadFizz · 03/06/2023 15:40

Zeugma · 03/06/2023 12:23

Sorry, physios, I’ve been lurking on your thread for a while in increasing disbelief - I’m not a physio so don’t really belong here (hey! maybe I need a lanyard!) but this latest preposterous nonsense has pushed me into posting.

An ‘older’ woman - at 34? Clearly a woman, just with short hair? And that makes her working environment somehow ‘unsafe’?

As for the invitation to Lords for ‘Jeffrey’, why didn’t it occur to her that a smug male was happy to extend an invitation to the exclusive boys’ club of cricket to someone presenting as male, but presumably wouldn’t invite her as the female she actually is? Sexist twaddle! Why not get angry about that?

I think we should leave comments on that article pointing out how sexist it is. Also, the subject isn't even LGBT - she's just got short hair!

Zeugma · 03/06/2023 12:23

Sorry, physios, I’ve been lurking on your thread for a while in increasing disbelief - I’m not a physio so don’t really belong here (hey! maybe I need a lanyard!) but this latest preposterous nonsense has pushed me into posting.

An ‘older’ woman - at 34? Clearly a woman, just with short hair? And that makes her working environment somehow ‘unsafe’?

As for the invitation to Lords for ‘Jeffrey’, why didn’t it occur to her that a smug male was happy to extend an invitation to the exclusive boys’ club of cricket to someone presenting as male, but presumably wouldn’t invite her as the female she actually is? Sexist twaddle! Why not get angry about that?

Calyx72 · 03/06/2023 12:09

I don't understand why this woman was so nervous. Not accepted for looking androgynous? Who bullies anyone for looking androgynous at her age? Cutting words in a previous job? I call bullshit.
And 'drag name'? Does she do drag? Or is that what it's called when a female self identifies as male?

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northender · 03/06/2023 06:49

Ffs it's all about bringing your authentic self to work...again.

RadFizz · 02/06/2023 15:55

Just received my latest Frontline and it has a truly ridiculous article on the power of lanyards, featuring that most oppressed of minorities - a straight white woman with short hair! https://www.csp.org.uk/frontline/article/whats-lanyard

But also, sexist much? Why wouldn't her classmate invite her to the cricket if she wasn't in her drag alter ego?

In one class I introduced Jeffrey, my male alter ego and drag name. It was a nervous moment, but public support via the lanyard gave me confidence.

One classmate leaned over: ‘I’m a member of Lords. If Jeffrey wants to come to the cricket, he’d be welcome.’

northender · 25/05/2023 06:41

I see an online CSP allyship event is being pushed quite heavily on twitter

RadFizz · 16/05/2023 06:52

Hah, not sure members of council can run for CEO. Though for an organisation that goes on about diversity and inclusivity etc it still seems to be mainly white men who are their directors, judging from their website. Plus ça change!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 15/05/2023 11:05

Jack Chew?

RadFizz · 14/05/2023 11:01

Has anyone heard anything about recruitment of a new CEO? If you know any GC physios in high-ranking positions then I would strongly encourage them to apply once it's advertised!

Calyx72 · 27/04/2023 20:39

Looks like him. Who knows.

I filled in the survey honestly so I'm expecting to have a tap on the shoulder 😆

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RadFizz · 26/04/2023 20:40

I see that Jack H is still on the equality committee https://twitter.com/BazSarine/status/1651234481230032898?s=20

But I believe that's Jack Chew on the screen above him. Has he been re-educated??

stealtheatingtunnocks · 17/04/2023 09:53

Note “personal” link. So they know it’s you, just like they know it’s you on the anonymous posts on iCSP

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