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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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RadFizz · 01/07/2023 22:01

Oh I just saw the video on Rob's Twitter. Seems like CSP was all about the T today 🙄

Calyx72 · 01/07/2023 18:51

Rob He/him and the LGBQTIA CSP folk did, I see on Twitter

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RadFizz · 01/07/2023 16:07

Today was Pride, did CSP march?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 01/07/2023 12:12

How much money does the CSP pay? I’ll work for them, I know the script that they like. I can identify as “so worthy I can’t think”

Calyx72 · 01/07/2023 10:38

Exactly. It's the following of the gender ideology language to a fault and it makes me lose respect for these people who think it's the correct thing. If they engaged their brains maybe they would realise how wrong it is

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RadFizz · 30/06/2023 22:36

We particularly welcome applications from physiotherapists, support workers and students facing economic barriers to attending and/or those from minority groups including people with disabilities, people who identify as Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic, and people who identify as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual

This is fine by me. Physiotherapy has long been a very white middle/class profession and I am all for opening it up. However, the "identifying as" is ridiculous. If you're Black or Asian then there's no way of identifying out of your ethnicity. I can identify as white until the cows come home but it doesn't mean I'll be treated the same as my white colleagues!

The rest though? Since when were people actively discriminated against and persecuted for being asexual??

stealtheatingtunnocks · 30/06/2023 19:37

good grief.

TheBiologyStupid · 30/06/2023 17:38

facing economic barriers to attending and/or those from minority groups

So wealthy people from the listed demographics can get funded places and support? Just yesterday the RAF was told its recruitment policies were illegal because they discriminated against white men...

Calyx72 · 30/06/2023 16:13

Email today from CSP Stewards about CSP conference:

"...we are offering funded places and support to CSP members who would otherwise not be part of the 2023 conferences, to attend and benefit from the opportunities for development, networking and the sharing of knowledge and expertise.

We particularly welcome applications from physiotherapists, support workers and students facing economic barriers to attending and/or those from minority groups including people with disabilities, people who identify as Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic, and people who identify as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer or Questioning, Intersex, Asexual plus."

  1. "Identify as Black, Asian, Minority ethnic" - is that even allowed? Do we 'identify as' race nowadays?
  2. So physios who are 'asexual' and 'plus' (whatever that means) will be prioritised. Does that include perimenopausal women who aren't up for doing the business as much will be prioritised? 😄
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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 28/06/2023 19:35

Phil Gray, have't thought about him in a while. Wonder what he'd make of all this?

northender · 27/06/2023 20:20

I was a regional steward many moons ago & was on the ARC committee for 2.or 3 years but again this is going back 25 years. It used to set the policy agenda for the CSP but, rightly I think, was considered to be dominated and manipulated by the stewards & H&S networks and so Phil Gray reduced its power iirc.
Not sure of its status now though

stealtheatingtunnocks · 27/06/2023 10:11

Last one before I go back to patients.

if a motion is raised by people who know nothing factual then is there recourse if you are a member but not a steward of the union? Twitter link to article in puberty blockers

https://twitter.com/rukhsanasukhan/status/1672991594751066112?s=46

stealtheatingtunnocks · 27/06/2023 09:44

Saw this too. I would like to see evidence of this discrimination stain that is causing my colleagues to leave because I think it is probably just “bring your whole self to work” stuff. “Dave, could you wear less bondage gear, infection control are upset and the gimp mask isn’t covid compliant” “discrimination, I’m going off sick”

I’ve never been to arc and I don’t really know what they do thwre.

Csp communication. Is bad. How can I be a member for decades and not know that?

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 27/06/2023 09:41

that Works for me.

who are south central regional stewards?

CSP needs a copy of the Cass review but I’m thinking they can just get on with it and Then we can have some sort of coup.

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RadFizz · 27/06/2023 07:06

I can still see it if I go from this page https://www.csp.org.uk/professional-clinical/courses-events/annual-representative-conference

It's the first link and the bit about trans kids is still there - number 28 under motions.

Calyx72 · 27/06/2023 00:01

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2023 15:39

Page has gone. That’s interesting.

Hi Rob

I get this. Sinister?!

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/06/2023 23:07

It was down for me too, I mean. I'm not sure that the CSP can not have noticed what is being discussed here.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/06/2023 23:00

RadFizz · 25/06/2023 10:39

Does anyone go to the annual reps conference? I read the motions and among them was this. Why would CSP get involved in issues around trans kids? https://www.csp.org.uk/system/files/documents/2023-05/arc2023-motions1.pdf

"Right-wing media fuelled culture war" 🙄

This one, Rad. Maybe it was a blip
Or maybe they are reading this thread and put it back up.

RadFizz · 26/06/2023 20:17

What page is that @stealtheatingtunnocks? When I copy it over I see something about nhs pay in the URL, nothing trans-related.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2023 15:39

Page has gone. That’s interesting.

Hi Rob

Log in

https://www.csp.org.uk/node/1253300

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2023 15:37

Do we need a journal club? Excellent study for the CSP council to read before considering this motion

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/06/2023 00:43

Have they ever heard of the Tavistock?

Maybe they'll watch eh documentary that as on tonight?

Calyx72 · 25/06/2023 22:40

RadFizz · 25/06/2023 19:52

Rather depressingly, that motion was put forward by members rather than the organisation itself.

That's the thing with activists they spend time and energy on this and get this gender nonsense written into every profession

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RadFizz · 25/06/2023 19:52

Rather depressingly, that motion was put forward by members rather than the organisation itself.

Calyx72 · 25/06/2023 19:50

twitter.com/soppystern/status/1673028437404008448?s=46&t=P1N2RkV93H7RYkP0FGaMMQ

This chap is having the same issues with ScotGov that we are with the CSP

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