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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 21/01/2024 22:17

is transphobia an actual issue? Are there examples of physios being struck off or disciplined for being transphobic?

RadFiz · 21/01/2024 10:16

So apparently CSP are now going to release a position statement/policy on transphobia as there is no issue that’s more important. I guess racism and ableism will just have to wait. The statement from the LGBT network below says you can email her for a copy of the draft statement, but shouldn’t they be consulting with all members?

x.com/csplgbtqia/status/1747926721855115687?s=20

stealtheatingtunnocks · 03/12/2023 16:34

why can’t our governing body communicate with members in a way that doesn’t lead to “pissed off”? I can see the problem, accidentally causing pneumothorax is one of the reasons I stopped using acupuncture but the upset on here is palpable. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2788672197888435/permalink/6879867852102162/

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/2788672197888435/permalink/6879867852102162/

stealtheatingtunnocks · 30/11/2023 01:03

thry are overdue making a statement about how we must wear Palestine lanyards, and when the general election is called we will all have to wear red ones to signal support for vote Labour. And Rosie Duffield isn’t to get any physio under any circumstances but Bungle can have as much as he likes because he’s an original rainbow.

where’s my Pay rise? And did we ever sort out the weekend working fiasco? And why can’t I get community rehab services for my patients? That all used to be the CSP’s job, didn’t it?

Calyx72 · 29/11/2023 19:09

OMG
It's just exhausting.

Also: "Harassment: this means people cannot treat you in a way that violates your dignity, or creates a hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment."

Er that's not what harassment means!

Sex is observed not "assigned at birth"
And transphobia apparently includes "refusing to accept someone's gender identity" which makes all gender critical people into transphobes - although gender critical beliefs have been proven in law to be valid and worthy of respect.

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Calyx72 · 29/11/2023 18:59

I don't want to look
But I am going to 😆

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tonybasil · 29/11/2023 14:56

Did anyone check that glossary? This for instance:

'It is now widely accepted that race is a social construct, rooted in White supremacy'.
Is it though? Is it really!!
And the constant use of 'sex assigned at birth' opposed to biological sex...

stealtheatingtunnocks · 29/11/2023 09:30

Yes, that’s the stonewall glossary. See anything missing from the “w” list?

(hint, it’s xx people)

RadFizz · 29/11/2023 07:59

Has anyone seen this? I suspect no one has thought it through as they include crossdressers in the definition of trans. All taken from Stonewall I suspect.
https://www.csp.org.uk/about-csp/equity-diversity-belonging/strategy/glossary#t

stealtheatingtunnocks · 05/11/2023 23:41

I mean, I hope there are. Science based professions can’t lie about truth.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 05/11/2023 23:41

Well, that’s possibly quite significant. Perhaps there are changes

RadFizz · 05/11/2023 22:15

Pronouns are still there, plus old-fashioned rainbow flag rather than the new version. Took me a moment to realise "Ass editor" wasn't some sort of joke!

northender · 05/11/2023 22:08

Pronouns are in her bio but I'm sure they used to be visible on her tweets but not now & yes she definitely had the flag too.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 05/11/2023 20:20

They are back now, but no trans flag. I’m here she had that before?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 05/11/2023 20:18

That’s a surprise

northender · 04/11/2023 22:00

Just noticed RM no longer has pronouns on twitter

RadFizz · 28/10/2023 16:07

Yes, and I suspect that was because the network won't be happy with anything other than an unquestioning acceptance of TWAW.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 28/10/2023 15:52

They need to define transphobia before acting on it, and that turned out to be a big “too hard”.

bet Karen Middleton can’t wait for January.

RadFizz · 28/10/2023 12:02

It all seems to have gone quiet on the trans front but I heard through the grapevine that the LGBT network are not happy with what they perceive as CSP's inaction on transphobia. It's interesting isn't it, how that always becomes the most pressing of equality issues over say, racism or ableism?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 28/10/2023 10:54

This is the problem with playing with politics - you can make clumsy mistakes. I know RM has friends in Palestine and has worked there, but a Jewish physio was kidnapped and no comment at all?

it’s like the gender stuff, it’s complex and you have to know what you are doing before you comment or you can cause upset if not real harm.

I hope she makes it back to her family soon, I don’t pretend to understand the Middle East, which is why I’d not comment publicly.
https://x.com/nirit_rotem/status/1717977742698750143?s=46

https://x.com/nirit_rotem/status/1717977742698750143?s=46

Calyx72 · 27/10/2023 23:03

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/10/2023 21:19

Nothing in the chairs statement about the impact of the Middle East on members who are either Jewish, Muslim or has links to Israel or Palestine? https://www.csp.org.uk/news/2023-10-19-csp-chairs-statement-gaza-israel

I don't know why it is necessary to comment on war and politics at all - our remit is anatomy and function and surely our trade union should stick to political issues which affect members.

Is Ishmael going to comment on the plastic-berg in the ocean? On the plight of child soldiers in the DRC? On the famine that's about to explode in the Horn of Africa? Or, does he only react to the latest hashtag?

Actually, I'd be quite interested in his thoughts on the WRN report about how many rapes and sexual assaults happen on mixed sex wards. <crickets>

Totally 100% agree. No political anything please from CSP. Only professional support and education as we are paying for that and not partisan politicking.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/10/2023 21:19

Nothing in the chairs statement about the impact of the Middle East on members who are either Jewish, Muslim or has links to Israel or Palestine? https://www.csp.org.uk/news/2023-10-19-csp-chairs-statement-gaza-israel

I don't know why it is necessary to comment on war and politics at all - our remit is anatomy and function and surely our trade union should stick to political issues which affect members.

Is Ishmael going to comment on the plastic-berg in the ocean? On the plight of child soldiers in the DRC? On the famine that's about to explode in the Horn of Africa? Or, does he only react to the latest hashtag?

Actually, I'd be quite interested in his thoughts on the WRN report about how many rapes and sexual assaults happen on mixed sex wards. <crickets>

CSP chair’s statement on Gaza and Israel

A statement from Ishmael Beckford, chair of CSP Council. 

https://www.csp.org.uk/news/2023-10-19-csp-chairs-statement-gaza-israel

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/10/2023 18:58

Oh, neither it does. That is interesting, I don't use LinkedIn so I hadn't spotted that. he's at least got clinical experience and is not Rob the communications guy.

RadFizz · 13/10/2023 17:36

As he's a gay man I'm wondering just what kind of diversity he's most interested in? On the other hand his LinkedIn doesn't have pronouns so you never know!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/10/2023 16:48

His LinkedIn says "I am an open and authentic individual". I wonder what that means? As opposed to a closed and inauthentic multiple?