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darleneconnor · 04/04/2011 13:00

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The best anti-porn evidence I've seen.

(Please watch with caution, some scenes are upsetting)

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Deliainthemaking · 09/04/2011 13:54

I have aplogised several times

It wasn't my words

If you'd read my post i've stressed many times it was not my words why should I feel guilty for quoting someone elses term? I have seen people quote words that are offensive on here all the time. They are not accused of having that viewpoint its vindictive to do the same to me.

I apologise for any offence that word caused to anyone,
I didnt meant to offend just use it as a quote.

karmakameleon · 09/04/2011 10:27

Delurking just to say

Delia, can you imagine calling someone a "P*ki" on the multicultural families section? And if you did could you imagine doing anything other than apologizing unreservedly, getting your post deleted and maybe even name changing to avoid the embarassment? Because that is the closest analogy to what you have here.

Deliainthemaking · 09/04/2011 10:11

but its not my point of view

do you not understand that!!!!!!!! I made that very clear

im clearly talking to a brick wall, I'm sure you'll find someone else to have a pop at soon.

dittany · 09/04/2011 10:10

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Deliainthemaking · 09/04/2011 10:04

You couldn't claim that if you'd retyped a racial slander or a homophobic slander that you'd just got it a "bit wrong". People would rightly believe that you didn't have a problem with those kind of bigoted insults.

you're saying me quoting somebody else calling a woman a whore is on par with this. so yes you did dittany

And no I don't buy your "I was tired" - it was ten o'clock in the morning - why not just own what you did. People who don't have problems with calling women whres call women whres (and tw*ts for that matter)

^^ calling me a liar when I said I read it late at night and was tired.

if you're gonna slander people on a forum at least have the decency not to cowardly about it afterwards.

I quoted somebody else being misogynistic and the rest of my post was clearly not misogynistic.so you know fine well that was not the point I was making

I'm leaving this now, putting a few things straight.

AyeRobot · 08/04/2011 23:09

No, she didn't. It's no wonder you're getting in bother if you don't read things carefully.

dittany · 08/04/2011 23:06

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Deliainthemaking · 08/04/2011 23:02

Delia, I haven't attacked you. I said that calling a woman a wh*re was misogynistic. I've said nothing about you as a person. On the other hand you went to town on me.

You did attack me personally dittany, you've called me a liar as bad a racist and homophobe

several times

i'm not going to bite you're not worth it

Beachcomber · 08/04/2011 22:56

Ah and it would appear that you need to read and analyse what you are linking to also.

I haven't read the piece, and from the additional info that has been posted here, I don't think I want or need to.

dittany · 08/04/2011 22:54

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Deliainthemaking · 08/04/2011 22:54

I've apologised several times very clearly

Its indefensible to lanch an attack on someone after aplogising

I only came back becasue of the disgusting lies that had been spawned

Deliainthemaking · 08/04/2011 22:51

I read the article late last night I was tired

response has been extremely nasty personal attacks
^^ the hipocrisy

you need to get over yourself your clearly spoiling for a fight you do it in nearly every thread with bullying one poster i've been foolish to bite as much as I have

goodnight.

Beachcomber · 08/04/2011 22:48

Ach. Sheesh. Shame this thread could have been so interesting.

Delia - I don't doubt your intentions. However words are powerful and we have to be careful how we use them.

I was Shock when you said 'town whore' and then later on I understood that you were quoting.

I think you need to make it more clear when you are quoting something by putting it in """" and linking to your source. Otherwise people are going to attribute things to you that are not your views IYSWIM.

ChristinedePizan · 08/04/2011 22:41

delia - I've found the source of your quote which goes on to say (and apologies to everyone for how vile this is): 'By the time he had reached the age of 12, Max's mother was a broken-down whore whose vagina was so loose it was briefly used as a blimp hangar'

Did you really not read the rest of that article before you considered quoting it? Really? It gets a lot worse. Apologise (without the 'yeah but' bits) and move on. But it is absolutely indefensible.

dittany · 08/04/2011 22:26

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dittany · 08/04/2011 22:18

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Deliainthemaking · 08/04/2011 22:12

Shes called me a liar and a misogynist I apologise for swearing at her it was OTT but I was provoked

you're behaviour was twattish its nothing to do with gender its to do with you

you've called me misogynist several times and then claimed not to?

and like claig said i've apologised you're trying to milk a banal argument

you're behaviour is bullying I have no time for bullies

toddlerwrangler · 08/04/2011 20:01

Agree with claig.

This is horrid to watch.

AyeRobot · 08/04/2011 19:56

xposted.

I don't know what to say to your last post, delia. Unpleasant.

AyeRobot · 08/04/2011 19:53

delia, I don't think that dittany is saying that you share that view (correct me if I'm wrong, dittany). I know I am astounded that you would think it appropriate to post those words on this thread (or any thread). I know you think you were just chit-chatting about it, but really? Can you understand at all why it is a big deal?

dittany · 08/04/2011 19:45

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Deliainthemaking · 08/04/2011 19:42

just becasue I quoted someone else using the term 'town whore' I apparantly must agree ? how does that logic work?

do you agree with everything you quote?? I

you've called me a liar and a misogynist and probably everything else and frankly if you had read it properly you would have seen several times I said the mother isnt to blame amid one offensive phrase you picked on one thing and made it a massive deal where I had said NUMEROUS times I do not share this view.

actually I'm not going to reason with someone who soo determined to paint me in a bad light and slander me on a public forum, all this ;ooh it wasnt aimed at you' to make 3 other blatantly abusive posts to them glibly'it wasnt aimed at you, well not all of it anyway'

I was just wondering what on earth you were thinking of using words like, yes - town wh*re, in reference to a woman, Delia. Who does that?

that was obviously aimed at me, you're a nasty little bully who can frankly fuck off I have no time for vicious little twats like you.

claig · 08/04/2011 19:37

I think Delia was tired and just lifted something she read late at night without thinking about it. She made an error in not thinking about it, but she has apologised.

dittany · 08/04/2011 19:34

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