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Robbing from Tesco with impunity *edited by MNHQ*

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KatherineSwynford1403 · 11/08/2023 09:14

I just got off a bus outside a Tesco that is a short walk from where I work to buy some yogurt and fruit for breakfast. On the bus there were three horrendous guys - loud, under the influence, scruffy, swearing, F-ing and Jeffing across the aisles at each other. They got off at the same stop - well, burst off the bus laughing - and burst into Tesco. I watched them saunter up to the booze aisle laughing as they went, nick a bottle of spirits each and walk out laughing in front of all the staff (floorwalking).

I challenged one of the members of staff (a big guy who could handle himself) as to if he was going to let them get away with it. He says they come in every morning and help themselves and nobody is allowed to touch or challenge them. They've contacted the police who don't want to know.

I told him "Right, see you then, I'm helping myself to these strawberries and this yogurt, have a nice day!" and he said I was OK to do that!!! Of course I told him I was joking and I paid.

How in hell have we got to this state of affairs in this country? Or my town specifically?

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HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMariaa · 11/08/2023 09:50

RudsyFarmer · 11/08/2023 09:47

And that’s the argument that makes people who are shoplifting feel justified to do so.

‘what did you say to yourself to make it okay to steal?’ ‘I said they make enough profits, they deserve it’.

At no point did I say it was ok. I used to be one of these poor fuckers in retail. We are not paid enough to risk challenging people, no.

Just that the information that Tesco etc are on their bare bones is incorrect. I have limited sympathy for the company but plenty for overworked underpaid staff. It doesn't mean I steal, it just means I'm not going to feel sorry for a company that is bleeding British dry.

As I said previously, there have always been lifters. Was ever thus.

Awittyfool · 11/08/2023 09:50

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMariaa · 11/08/2023 09:43

Recent research shows the big four supermarkets are making excess profits and benefiting off the cost of living crisis by not passing savings on.

Lastly supermarkets aren’t charities. They compete against each other hence prices are whatever gives them best profits versus market share.

What is an excess profit? Who is deciding how much is too much?

Pinching stuff from Tesco as some sort of socialist cause is ridiculous. Start your own low profit supermarket if that’s the way forward. Tesco pay and treat staff fairly. They donate the surplus food to charity at the end of every day.

OakTree16 · 11/08/2023 09:50

Weirdly it’s the opposite in my local Tesco! I’ve seen people steal a few times in there and they always go after them. I once saw them refuse to let a homeless man go until he handed back a bottle of coke that he had stole

KatherineSwynford1403 · 11/08/2023 09:49

Wsmi · 11/08/2023 09:48

This is normal now. That how far this country has sunk. Basically, the police are more concerned about attending the local pride event than dealing with crime. Or policing people’s social media for non crime hate speech. And you are not allowed to use the word criminal to describe a criminal. They must be underprivileged victim of some sort:

It might be prevalent, it might be common, but it will never be normal.

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Wsmi · 11/08/2023 09:48

This is normal now. That how far this country has sunk. Basically, the police are more concerned about attending the local pride event than dealing with crime. Or policing people’s social media for non crime hate speech. And you are not allowed to use the word criminal to describe a criminal. They must be underprivileged victim of some sort:

EmmaEmerald · 11/08/2023 09:48

It's all over the country now OP

I haven't seen much news but my sister tells me the police are doing similar to San Francisco now - they won't bother with a theft under $200 over there, she says the police have made a similar announcement here?

My bestie lives in Brixton and is surprised that my local supermarket doesn't have the alcohol locked away.

It does feel as if the governments across the world will do nothing, make of that what you will.

RudsyFarmer · 11/08/2023 09:47

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMariaa · 11/08/2023 09:43

Recent research shows the big four supermarkets are making excess profits and benefiting off the cost of living crisis by not passing savings on.

And that’s the argument that makes people who are shoplifting feel justified to do so.

‘what did you say to yourself to make it okay to steal?’ ‘I said they make enough profits, they deserve it’.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/08/2023 09:47

MymateDave · 11/08/2023 09:25

We are not allowed to approach shop lifters for our own safety. Always been tesco policy. We had 2 men fill bags with 1.2k worth of alcohol this week and just run out the store. We have 1 security guard, but thieves know he does late shift so come bright and early.

Surely it would be cheaper to employ a second security guard to do the early shift.

Pinkitydrinkity · 11/08/2023 09:47

Elieenmorrigan · 11/08/2023 09:41

@Pinkitydrinkity 3 bottles of spirits would be like £50? Peanuts to Tesco’s

That's not quite right - (I used to work for Tesco's)

In order to stay competitive in the marketplace Tesco's (and other supermarkets) operate on very small profit margins.

If I am stacking shelves with jars of coffee from a case of 12 jars and I drop one and it breaks, that's the whole profit from that case gone.
That is classed as a 'shrinkage' and has to be paid for somehow.

So shoplifters put the price up for everyone else.

I get that - but all companies haemorrhage money in lots of ways.

Would you on your pay of £11.02/hour have challenged these 3 men over £50?

drinkuptheezider · 11/08/2023 09:46

DH and I saw a large group of foreign students ( backpacks with language school logos) stealing, we alerted staff in tesco who said there was nothing they could do as they can't recover from them.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 11/08/2023 09:45

Pandaflop · 11/08/2023 09:17

Because large swathes are entitled wasters who think they have a right to do as the please. As the police have been cut and as supermarkets invariably don't employ trained security guards anymore you have a perfect storm when it comes to shoplifting. Can't blame the staff for not intervening, their just above min wage jobs aren't worth risking their lives for (sounds dramatic but let's be honest plenty of aforementioned wasters who do nothing but drain society rather than add to it are likely carrying knives); but it is indeed sad that we don't have a large enough police force anymore to actually address crime and stop it.

And who is raising this ever-growing crop of wasters??

We really need less careless & thoughtless procreation. People like this generally don't come from stable, respectful and enthusiastic parenting situations.

KatherineSwynford1403 · 11/08/2023 09:45

Scienceadvisory · 11/08/2023 09:28

What is goady is you title.

I've asked MN to change it, if they can.

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Awittyfool · 11/08/2023 09:44

dreamingbohemian · 11/08/2023 09:36

The situation may be ridiculous, but saying this means 'stealing is a human right' is goady nonsense. No one thinks that.

When cost of living goes up, when health care and social care and addiction treatment are not funded, when police are overstretched, people will steal more. Its not rocket science.

Sure Tesco can put their booze behind locks but that's a plaster on bigger problems only the government can fix.

Bollocks.

People ( usually men because they are very entitled) do it because they can. I used to work with teenage boys that nicked large amounts of booze. They were well fed at home and parents would give them money for lunch and snacks.

It’s nonsense like this that means more people feel they can get away with it. The amount of people nicking stuff because they are hungry is virtually none. It’s perfectly well fed people exploiting open supermarkets, knowing they can’t be searched.

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMariaa · 11/08/2023 09:43

Elieenmorrigan · 11/08/2023 09:41

@Pinkitydrinkity 3 bottles of spirits would be like £50? Peanuts to Tesco’s

That's not quite right - (I used to work for Tesco's)

In order to stay competitive in the marketplace Tesco's (and other supermarkets) operate on very small profit margins.

If I am stacking shelves with jars of coffee from a case of 12 jars and I drop one and it breaks, that's the whole profit from that case gone.
That is classed as a 'shrinkage' and has to be paid for somehow.

So shoplifters put the price up for everyone else.

Recent research shows the big four supermarkets are making excess profits and benefiting off the cost of living crisis by not passing savings on.

Crowfinch · 11/08/2023 09:43

There was an interesting segment about this on newsnight the other night. Basically, shoplifters know nothing will happen, so are increasingly brazen- think supermarket sweep type dashes. Blokes from co op was saying it's not necessarily people stealing to feed themselves, but organised and targeted theft, which their security guards can do nothing about.

As an aside, I was once involved with a bloke who believed that bacon and cheese were his human right (yes, he used those words), so he would steal them from our local supermarket because he couldn't afford them. The fact that he couldn't afford them because he was too superior to work like the rest of us escaped him.

Elieenmorrigan · 11/08/2023 09:41

Pinkitydrinkity · 11/08/2023 09:19

3 bottles of spirits would be like £50? Peanuts to Tesco’s. I wouldn’t be challenging them either from how you have described them!

@Pinkitydrinkity 3 bottles of spirits would be like £50? Peanuts to Tesco’s

That's not quite right - (I used to work for Tesco's)

In order to stay competitive in the marketplace Tesco's (and other supermarkets) operate on very small profit margins.

If I am stacking shelves with jars of coffee from a case of 12 jars and I drop one and it breaks, that's the whole profit from that case gone.
That is classed as a 'shrinkage' and has to be paid for somehow.

So shoplifters put the price up for everyone else.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 11/08/2023 09:41

I’ve heard of this a lot recently.

What is the point of having security guards then?

I reported an aggressive guy in the car park of our local Tesco who was threatening and frightening old women in the disabled bays, plus threatening the young female in his car. The security guard came out, had a look then retreated back into the store. 🤷‍♀️

NeedToChangeName · 11/08/2023 09:40

A checkout operator at our local Tesco told me they routinely have people helping themselves to as much ££ steak as they can stuff in a rucksack

As a PP said, cost of living, not enough treatment for ails of society, not enough police = perfect storm

RudsyFarmer · 11/08/2023 09:39

There is a general breaking down of society happened right now infront of us. We are impotent to it happening. Some of us choose to roll our eyes and shrug our shoulders as a coping mechanism. Others throw their hands up in the air furious. Many think it’s ‘no big deal’. But it’s happening. The criminals are winning. The bolder they become the more it will impact your lives abd your children’s lives.

Wishitsnows · 11/08/2023 09:38

My weekly shop is under £200 so I could then just push the trolley out but as I don’t look like a thug I know I would be stopped as I would be an easy target.

Awittyfool · 11/08/2023 09:38

Pinkitydrinkity · 11/08/2023 09:19

3 bottles of spirits would be like £50? Peanuts to Tesco’s. I wouldn’t be challenging them either from how you have described them!

That’s not the point. It’s stealing.

My male colleagues would prefer the females to challenge as it’s less likely the situation will escalate ( and looks poor for the men if anything does happen).

One of the problems for shop staff is they are busy. Even filling shelves you are focused on getting the stuff out quickly so you don’t notice the people nicking stuff. If you’re on the tills you can’t leave.

The best way is for shops to refuse entry I think ie no more than 3 kids at a time or previous shoplifters banned.

DongsOfPraise · 11/08/2023 09:36

There’s a lot of theft from the shop I work in, and from other businesses in the area. The police do not want to know, every incident is reported to the police and the company I work for, nothing changes and imo that’s why the thefts have increased, it’s brazen and an increasing number of staff have been assaulted along the way.

The staff member you spoke to sounds like someone who has had enough and isn’t prepared to risk their own safety for the sake of the stock. He won’t be the only one.

dreamingbohemian · 11/08/2023 09:36

KatherineSwynford1403 · 11/08/2023 09:29

It's not ridiculous. It is at least three bottles of booze a day, ie 21 a week from just this set of wasters. Maybe they tell their mates and they rock up for a free party, too.

The alcohol should be kept in a locked cabinet to avoid this. Then the police would have to act if the thieves kicked off about it in the store or attempted criminal damage.

The situation may be ridiculous, but saying this means 'stealing is a human right' is goady nonsense. No one thinks that.

When cost of living goes up, when health care and social care and addiction treatment are not funded, when police are overstretched, people will steal more. Its not rocket science.

Sure Tesco can put their booze behind locks but that's a plaster on bigger problems only the government can fix.

maddening · 11/08/2023 09:36

Pandaflop · 11/08/2023 09:17

Because large swathes are entitled wasters who think they have a right to do as the please. As the police have been cut and as supermarkets invariably don't employ trained security guards anymore you have a perfect storm when it comes to shoplifting. Can't blame the staff for not intervening, their just above min wage jobs aren't worth risking their lives for (sounds dramatic but let's be honest plenty of aforementioned wasters who do nothing but drain society rather than add to it are likely carrying knives); but it is indeed sad that we don't have a large enough police force anymore to actually address crime and stop it.

Not cut enough that 8 officer have got time to harrass a disabled girl for thought crime.

x2boys · 11/08/2023 09:34

Pinkitydrinkity · 11/08/2023 09:19

3 bottles of spirits would be like £50? Peanuts to Tesco’s. I wouldn’t be challenging them either from how you have described them!

Well.thars,all right then🙄

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