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Michael Jackson being hero worshipped at Primary School gives me the ick.

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CornishIrish · Today 16:16

Probably said before but this week it feels worse. After the recent movie and clearly after some teachers encouraging it the kids at the localprimary school are obsessed with Michael Jackson and the school really seem to be encouraging it with almost constant playlists of his music.

So bizarre to have a peado’s music blaring out and little kids dancing about at the same time they are having stranger danger assemblies.

With Walliams in the news and Brand going away and both openly being predators it seems this all feels super depressing.

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MaRhodes · Today 17:51

I saw some post on FB about him apparently protecting children on Epstein Island and was thinking how things have changed.

RaggedRocks · Today 17:49

PullingOutHair123 · Today 17:40

But why ONLY focus on MJ, and not all the other dodgy artists out there? Why makes MJ the only object of your ire?

That's what I don't understand. It's the double standard.

He is dead and can't sue them for libel

Nearly50omg · Today 17:48

All of you bringing up the allegations against MJ yet again have any of you thought about his family and more importantly his children who loved him and have to live without him while still having rumours and nastiness constantly spread about their father? He went to court and had a criminal case and was found not guilty and he’s not dead. Put this to rest. His songs are not harmful they are positive and anti racism, pro environmental etc so there’s nothing negative in any of his music. Why can’t the future generations and current ones enjoy fantastic music which was a one off the likes of which we won’t see again?

PullingOutHair123 · Today 17:40

But why ONLY focus on MJ, and not all the other dodgy artists out there? Why makes MJ the only object of your ire?

That's what I don't understand. It's the double standard.

MandemChickenShop · Today 17:38

Imagine how my daddy felt
In your jet black suspender belt
Seventeen years old
He's touching sixty four

not my words, Rod Stewarts

WhatYouWearing · Today 17:37

If Dave on the local estate had children sleepovers AFTER being accused of those crimes I’m pretty sure what the majority of MN would say.

I hate this idolisation and I believe the victims. I wonder if it would be different to some if they were little girls.

MandemChickenShop · Today 17:33

planespotter71 · Today 16:54

ABBA??

You're a teaser, you turn 'em on
Leave 'em burning and then you're gone
Looking out for another, anyone will do
You're in the mood for a dance
And when you get the chance

You are the dancing queen
Young and sweet, only seventeen
Dancing queen
Feel the beat from the tambourine, oh, yeah

song about a 17 year old prick tease, all together now......

David Bowie, Rod Steward, Lily Allen, pretty much everyone in the arts is degrees of shady

Firesidechatter · Today 17:25

CornishIrish · Today 16:53

I hear what people are saying about separation of artist and art but there are two live cases still open and I think given the recent events and people asking how an abuser can hide in plain sight it worries me that a child that might be being abused might just be a little less encouraged to come forward when they see people maybe don’t care that much if the person is well liked.

And on the blaring yeah, it’s during the school day at least once a day and in after school club.

What because people listen to Michael Jackson?

Davros · Today 17:24

BatchCookBabe · Today 16:25

Michael Jackson songs are being played in primary schools, in 2026?

How odd. Confused

It’s bloody everywhere. I made a comment at the gym a while ago and it hadn’t occurred to the lovely young (mostly) female physiotherapists. I don’t know why they would want to listen to it regardless!

x2boys · Today 17:22

MrsKateColumbo · Today 16:31

No other children rapist gets defended on MN as much as MJ (as brilliant as he was). Rightly posters point out how rare false rape claims are, how conviction rate does not represent the crimes. Yet MJ gets a free pass because he was so gifted. Nowhere else would small children victims now grown adults nit be believed

Agreed and even on the slim chance he didnt sexually abuse children
He most certainly emotionally abused them

CornishIrish · Today 17:16

NormasArse · Today 17:14

Halloween disco, I expect. Thriller.

Unfortunately not. My daughter says every day and at least once a week they have music in after school club and frequently it’s a half hour of his music. Halloween disco was about three songs and a lot of kids were dressed up as him. It annoys the shit out of my daughter

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NormasArse · Today 17:14

BatchCookBabe · Today 16:25

Michael Jackson songs are being played in primary schools, in 2026?

How odd. Confused

Halloween disco, I expect. Thriller.

CornishIrish · Today 17:13

When I say he I mean Walliams not my mate!

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CornishIrish · Today 17:13

LlynTegid · Today 17:08

Have you raised this with the school? And asked they remove all of David Walliams books if they had any.

I have mentioned it and in an age appropriate way told my own children that no matter what no person is above being held accountable for their actions.

A friend actually worked at Harper Collins, he was predatory to juniors there and I think there will probably have to be a think about how his work is featured.

I do think there is a big difference between some of the names mentioned here and a man who groomed and admitted to sleeping with children. To have a stranger danger talk at school but then making on balance very likely an abuser into something verging on school mascot is a different thing.

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LlynTegid · Today 17:08

Have you raised this with the school? And asked they remove all of David Walliams books if they had any.

PullingOutHair123 · Today 17:05

planespotter71 · Today 16:54

ABBA??

Quote from AI:

ABBA does not have a criminal or scandal-ridden past, though their history involves messy personal divorces, intense media scrutiny, and a few 1970s lyrics and cultural norms that are viewed critically today

To add to the above list, Picasso, Caravaggio, Gauguin, Schiele, Dali, Chanel, Hugo Boss, Christian Dior.

planespotter71 · Today 16:54

MandemChickenShop · Today 16:51

roald Dahl, Enid blyton, abba, the Beatles, The Happy Mondays, David Walliams

pretty much everyone is dodgy.

let them enjoy a bit of MJ

ABBA??

CornishIrish · Today 16:53

I hear what people are saying about separation of artist and art but there are two live cases still open and I think given the recent events and people asking how an abuser can hide in plain sight it worries me that a child that might be being abused might just be a little less encouraged to come forward when they see people maybe don’t care that much if the person is well liked.

And on the blaring yeah, it’s during the school day at least once a day and in after school club.

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MandemChickenShop · Today 16:51

roald Dahl, Enid blyton, abba, the Beatles, The Happy Mondays, David Walliams

pretty much everyone is dodgy.

let them enjoy a bit of MJ

Firesidechatter · Today 16:46

LouisFuton · Today 16:43

i was at Pilates and a playlist of his came on I was 😮

someone said oh I love his music and I said well yeah I used to as well. She said used to? I said yes I used to but she didn't ask and I didn't elaborate I thought I cba to get into this whilst glute bridging

I also can seperate the art from the artist, I see no issue in enjoying his music, any funds go to his estate and rhe man is dead,

Firesidechatter · Today 16:45

What sort of primary school is blaring out pop music, encouraging kids to hero worship Michael Jackson and have playlists full of his songs??

Kirbert2 · Today 16:44

PullingOutHair123 · Today 16:26

Many people are able to separate the art from the artist. You may choose not to, but many can.

I also feel uneasy picking "only" on Jackson, when going back into history many artists across many genres had questionable morals (especially by todays standards), yet we still celebrate their art.

Plus, whether we agree or not, Jackson was not found guilty in a court of law. We have to respect that at some level, or there is no point in having courts. Even if (and yes, they definitely do) get it wrong on occasions. Otherwise we are in vigilante territory. Although had he lived, I do wonder if the case would have gone back to court.

Yep.

My son is in Year 6 and we've had the discussion about separating the art from the artist when it comes to Michael Jackson as he enjoys his music.

LouisFuton · Today 16:43

i was at Pilates and a playlist of his came on I was 😮

someone said oh I love his music and I said well yeah I used to as well. She said used to? I said yes I used to but she didn't ask and I didn't elaborate I thought I cba to get into this whilst glute bridging

ChilliFire · Today 16:41

Why is music constantly being played at this school???

I was at a dance competition at the weekend and one team used Michael Jackson as their inspiration (amazing choreography I have to say) which I thought was odd, and then at the disco that night there was a Michael Jackson tribute section. Bearing in mind this was a kids disco it felt off but I guess the fact he was never taken to court or found guilty is why his music is still seen as acceptable.

BrilliantBetty · Today 16:39

Yes very weird. I’ve previously made a complaint about the same thing at a children’s class. Nothing changes if you don’t complain as they won’t take an informal comment on board and loads of people love MJ.

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