Jonathan Ross

I still can’t believe he got away with this after grooming her as a 13-year-old. I remember it well at the time being in the papers but it didn’t seem to have the shock value that it would have today.

It also used to be OK for young people to take on responsibilities like work, providing for families and taking responsibility for their behaviour but now they're apparently too vulnerable.

Sorry this "on my radar" comment that is becoming compulsory just makes me laugh! Is MN populated by a colony of bats?!

If going home with a drunk 15 year old girl was seen as disgusting/ dodgy at the time - as it should have been - why is calling out that behaviour in front of DWs peers "good natured and bantery"

But you didn't say LIKELY, did you?

"Yes, who would have all been aware of his behaviour around teenage girls"

That's quite a difference. Legally, in particular.

There's middle ground here. I get the sense that some children and teenagers now are not expected to do anything much independently and unsupervised. They have so little life experience that there has to be a risk that they're just not learning essential life skills that many of us acquired in childhood - social skills, character assessment, spotting the early signs that someone else is trouble and backing away. Yes, there were some huge risks in leaving children so much on their own in the past, but the risks in not giving children some independence are also considerable.

Well saw how he was behaving that evening. I don't need to know it as a FACT, to express the opinion that it seems likely they did.

And you know for a FACT that his wife and everyone in that photo knew of his behaviour, do you? Seriously?

Yes, who would have all been aware of his behaviour around teenage girls. I have never said Ross was involved, only that too many people knew and did nothing.

totally agree. always found Ross creepy (not as much as Brand and Walliams) but he is up there on my radar

Yes, it was a good natured bantery jibe at Walliams. Just what should happen to sex offenders. It shows "they" knew and did nothing.

Along with his wife and 10 other people.

Re the Comedy Awards comment which is causing so much angst has it not occurred to anyone that it is actually a jibe / reveal against David Walliams? This show was screened in 2005 ( JR makes reference to it being the 15th year) - long before any rumours really leaked out about his behaviour. By calling out David Walliams preferences albeit in a jokey way JR is actually sending up a red flag - or is that too generous a reading for this thread !

This exactly if anything JR was actually protecting lily Allen nothing wrong with that x

My thoughts exactly.

This is actually a point I find very interesting.

My MIL is in her late 70s and she thinks children today are horrendously babies. She left school at 15, married at 22 and thinks the idea of 18 year olds still being kids as bizarre.

DH’s Granny (her MIL) is 103 and she thinks children should be children until 18. She thinks things are starting to go a bit far with people babying their children in their late 20s, but she left school at 12. She met her husband when she was 17 and they married when she was 19 and he 25. They had delayed marrying for a long as possible as she loved her job (they worked together) and she had to quit as soon as she married. She thinks the balance is better now than in her generation.

It really wouldn’t surprise me. It’s not even just the “hilarious jokes” that makes me think these people’s hard drives need checking. It’s the apparent casual acceptance that this kind of behaviour (sexual assaults, harassment, grooming of children) is completely normal, to be expected and a “perk”.

Even if it’s a slow burn I really hope that the time is up for all the creeps and sexual predators out there and they all get what’s coming to them- justice for their victims and prison time for them.

absolutely, not sure how this was even thought to be funny at the time

Infantised or now recognised that all those oh so mature 16yos were acutely vulnerable?

I mean, it used to be OK to send 5yos up chimneys.

There's a picture in the news today with Walliams arm round a teen he's accused of grooming. Surprise surprise, Ross is in the picture too.

Oh certainly not.

That's a fair point! I always just thought he looked like a walking STD. I never understood the appeal.

Spot on. Even young adults in their twenties are completely infantilised.

I've seen things crawling out from under stones that would meet that description!

Well,.for starters about 10000000x more attractive than RB.