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Has the Russell Brand stuff affected your relationship/dating?

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teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 11:48

Bit if a weird reaction I know - but I am in a new relationship and he is keen to move physically a bit faster then me. He's not particularly disrespectful - pretty normal for a bloke at the age we are- yet he is persistent. There's always a second approach or try. He's a lovely bloke or is he? I now think am I a bit of a boiled frog and I don't realise the environment we are all living in?

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teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 11:53

sorry for the immediate second post - I need to clarify what I mean. Listening to the coverage and thinking about it - has made me think all the stuff we have had to put up with and how for women my age it's normalised (I'm mid 40s)

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ToastAndCoffee8 · 10/11/2026 11:58

Yes this would put me off, if you like him and don’t want to leave tell him firmly.. I said no, I’ll let you know when I’ve changed my mind until then stop!
His reaction will tell you what you need to no, as in it should be, sorry and of course that’s not a problem.
They do all get it though, don’t fall for the wide eyed Bambi.. I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong nonsense.

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 12:05

ToastAndCoffee8 · 10/11/2026 11:58

Yes this would put me off, if you like him and don’t want to leave tell him firmly.. I said no, I’ll let you know when I’ve changed my mind until then stop!
His reaction will tell you what you need to no, as in it should be, sorry and of course that’s not a problem.
They do all get it though, don’t fall for the wide eyed Bambi.. I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong nonsense.

Yes I think I will do this - I am firm but biddable I guess- He thinks he can win me round.

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randomname72 · 10/11/2026 12:15

When dating my now DH 12 years ago I said no let’s wait. Weeks later- he said I’m glad we waited. I’m sure you can do better than be pestered for sex by a man you are dating. No means no - not try and convince me. As PP said he needs to be told not to ask again. He might be thinking you are playing hard to get -to cover all bases tell him that you are not.

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 12:16

How quick are you talking op? And how is he approaching it? I mean it's quite normal for being that are dating to fancy each other and to have sex. Plenty of one night stands end up in long term relationships and it can be part of flirting for some people to 'try it on' - you know, make it clear they want to fuck, strong flirting, being overt etc. Some people even enjoy it!
How long have you been dating?

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 12:18

'I'll let you know when I've changed my mind!'

We're all so different. I can't imagine this is any dating scenario I've been in. Flirting - physically, emotionally, intellectually - is all part of the dance and fun for me.

Redbags · 10/11/2026 12:21

What do you mean by trying again? The same evening or next weekend?

If he's not taking a no as not today and leaving it at that, I'd be gone like a shot. I don't think its unreasonable to make it clear he would ultimately like to sleep with you.

Fidgety31 · 10/11/2026 12:22

I think most men would be pushing more boundaries if they thought they could get away with it tbh.

selfish entitled and pretty grim - sums up the majority of men I have encountered and I’m in my 50s .

NovemberMorn · 10/11/2026 12:28

If you are giving out clear physical messages as well as words, he is pressuring you, and that's obviously wrong.

HundredMilesAnHour · 10/11/2026 12:32

You describing him as “persistent” is a bit of a red flag to me. You’ve told him clearly that you’re not ready yet. He needs to respect your choice and he seems to be ignoring that. That would be a dealbreaker for me.

zoeslim · 10/11/2026 12:34

No not at all

Mary46 · 10/11/2026 12:34

My daughter was saying they lack respect these days. She is 21. Some nice ones in friends group but some are awful she says!!

ToastAndCoffee8 · 10/11/2026 12:51

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 12:18

'I'll let you know when I've changed my mind!'

We're all so different. I can't imagine this is any dating scenario I've been in. Flirting - physically, emotionally, intellectually - is all part of the dance and fun for me.

That’s good because you shouldn’t have to say this, I gave it as an example of what op could say if she didn’t want to end things.
I remember years ago explaining to my teenage son.. if you’re kissing a girl and you then touch her bum or instigate something more and she says no or pushes your hand away it means she wants to stop at kissing, it doesn’t mean keep trying until she gives in.
Do you enjoy that, is that what you mean?
I feel like I spent most of my teens/twenties trying to not have dates sticking there hand up my skirt/top just because we were snogging, no way would I be putting up with it now I’m 44, luckily I’m happily married and don’t have to date anyone.

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:04

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 12:16

How quick are you talking op? And how is he approaching it? I mean it's quite normal for being that are dating to fancy each other and to have sex. Plenty of one night stands end up in long term relationships and it can be part of flirting for some people to 'try it on' - you know, make it clear they want to fuck, strong flirting, being overt etc. Some people even enjoy it!
How long have you been dating?

we've been dating 6 weeks averaging 2 dates a week. I also enjoy sex but I'm enjoying taking it slow.

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teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:08

I'll give an example (feels cringe to write it out)
Watching a film, some snogging happens- he attempts to touch far up my leg. I keep my legs together and hold his hand in place. I also kiss less and push him back a bit and say slow down. Next time we kiss and snog a bit, hand goes to same place. Happens one more time before I draw it to an end saying I need to go to bed (we were on settee)

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Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 13:10

So about 12 dates. Obviously it's up to you but I would have had sex a long time ago and I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to make it clear they'd like to shag you by this point. I would dump someone by this point if they were rejecting my sexual advances. Long before actually

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 13:13

You're incompatible. He wants sex, you don't.

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:14

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 13:10

So about 12 dates. Obviously it's up to you but I would have had sex a long time ago and I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to make it clear they'd like to shag you by this point. I would dump someone by this point if they were rejecting my sexual advances. Long before actually

everyone has sex when they want to- we are talking about his behaviour not my attitude to sex

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NovemberMorn · 10/11/2026 13:15

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:08

I'll give an example (feels cringe to write it out)
Watching a film, some snogging happens- he attempts to touch far up my leg. I keep my legs together and hold his hand in place. I also kiss less and push him back a bit and say slow down. Next time we kiss and snog a bit, hand goes to same place. Happens one more time before I draw it to an end saying I need to go to bed (we were on settee)

He is overstepping, but maybe you are not being clear enough.
Slow down doesn't mean stop in his eyes.

seanconneryseyebrow · 10/11/2026 13:16

Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 13:10

So about 12 dates. Obviously it's up to you but I would have had sex a long time ago and I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to make it clear they'd like to shag you by this point. I would dump someone by this point if they were rejecting my sexual advances. Long before actually

Same. I would assume they werent really into me/had low sex drive/were asexual and just looking for a companion.

12 dates and no sex is very very slow. Why so long OP? Do you not fancy him? Dont you want to know if you are sexually compatible?

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:16

NovemberMorn · 10/11/2026 13:15

He is overstepping, but maybe you are not being clear enough.
Slow down doesn't mean stop in his eyes.

ah yes ok good point

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JHound · 10/11/2026 13:16

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 11:48

Bit if a weird reaction I know - but I am in a new relationship and he is keen to move physically a bit faster then me. He's not particularly disrespectful - pretty normal for a bloke at the age we are- yet he is persistent. There's always a second approach or try. He's a lovely bloke or is he? I now think am I a bit of a boiled frog and I don't realise the environment we are all living in?

It would put me off but nothing to do with Brand. I just hate men being pushy for sex. Men who want to jump into sex quickly but drag their feet on getting into committed relationships are just annoying and I block them.

Crushed23 · 10/11/2026 13:17

I would genuinely be put off by a man who didn’t make the first move and try to have sex with me. If I’m dating, I want a man who is sexually interested in me, otherwise what’s the point?

Forceful and disrespecting consent? Absolutely not. But making the first move and playfully testing boundaries? Perfectly fine. I actually quite like to be seduced / persuaded to have sex, not for the man to wait until he was 100% certain I am up for it. I enjoy the push and pull.

I’m late 30s btw.

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:18

JHound · 10/11/2026 13:16

It would put me off but nothing to do with Brand. I just hate men being pushy for sex. Men who want to jump into sex quickly but drag their feet on getting into committed relationships are just annoying and I block them.

Edited

yes sorry- I was just meaning as everyone is talking about it and I've been considering it more in the context of my own life as a woman managing men

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Takinguproom · 10/11/2026 13:19

teachertetherendof · 10/11/2026 13:14

everyone has sex when they want to- we are talking about his behaviour not my attitude to sex

His behaviour sounds perfectly normal to me. Exactly how slow is he supposed to go?!

Offensive trying to compare a bloke you're dating trying to touch your leg to Russell Brand and violent anal rape

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