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Russell Brand

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JustHereForTheFood · 09/11/2026 18:21

What is your opinion on the case. I’m not saying he’s innocent but say for example this happened to someone who wasn’t famous, if it happened to us on the street of our town and we reported it 10 years later, would they say there wasn’t enough evidence? Like the recent drama with the taxi driver that had someone playing Boris Johnson’s wife - they didn’t believe the victims when there WAS evidence? I don’t know.

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TheGreatDownandOut · 09/11/2026 19:04

tigger1001 · 09/11/2026 18:56

Non famous people are prosecuted for historic sexual crimes though.

as others have pointed out there is more to evidence than dna evidence. All that does anyway is prove sex took place - not that someone consented. And it wasn't in question whether sex had occurred but it was whether there was consent or not.

Agree.

I think with cases like this, many laypeople start to give opinions based on very little fact or experience.

Don’t get me wrong, I am a layperson. But at least I am not pretending to know anything!

I might look in to the minutiae at some point but for now it’s enough to know that he must have been guilty in order to get the guilty verdicts he got.

Grimda · 09/11/2026 19:13

I think anyone who saw how Brand has acted through the years could be 95% certain we was a sexual predator without any evidence whatsoever. I’d love to hear from any women that found him remotely entertaining.. I mean he always was 100% sleazeball. Just a truly disgusting human being. How did so many women who went to his shows and bought his book block these obvious facts out of their mind?

LuckyHazelFox · 09/11/2026 19:17

Utterly disgusted at some comments, adamant on his innocence. A lot of them coming from women, as well. Not on MN, I might add. We really are going backwards in thinking. However, it's been refreshing to hear police and CPS statements encouraging women of sexual assault to always come forward.

tilypu · 09/11/2026 19:24

It's quite incredible how many people, particularly on social media, are wittering on about no evidence without actually paying attention to the case.

Like, do some research so you can either back up your assertions, or realise that's it's completely untrue and not post it at all.

MickyMoonshine · 09/11/2026 19:41

LuckyHazelFox · 09/11/2026 19:17

Utterly disgusted at some comments, adamant on his innocence. A lot of them coming from women, as well. Not on MN, I might add. We really are going backwards in thinking. However, it's been refreshing to hear police and CPS statements encouraging women of sexual assault to always come forward.

I’ve found their explanations about how it got to trial and the evidence they had really interesting.
It’s not hard to do a bit of research and to see that it was complex, thorough investigation.
Anyone who is adamant that it was simply a case of ‘he said, she said’ or proclaims he’s innocent just comes across as not very intelligent.

workworkworknofun · 09/11/2026 19:42

If it happened and then the man kept bragging about it publicly, I would report it q0 years later. Yes.

JHound · 09/11/2026 19:42

JustHereForTheFood · 09/11/2026 18:21

What is your opinion on the case. I’m not saying he’s innocent but say for example this happened to someone who wasn’t famous, if it happened to us on the street of our town and we reported it 10 years later, would they say there wasn’t enough evidence? Like the recent drama with the taxi driver that had someone playing Boris Johnson’s wife - they didn’t believe the victims when there WAS evidence? I don’t know.

I fully support rapists going to jail. So f**k Brand. Rapists are rarely convicted so clearly what was presented to the jury was enough to convince them of his guilt.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/11/2026 19:43

MickyMoonshine · 09/11/2026 19:41

I’ve found their explanations about how it got to trial and the evidence they had really interesting.
It’s not hard to do a bit of research and to see that it was complex, thorough investigation.
Anyone who is adamant that it was simply a case of ‘he said, she said’ or proclaims he’s innocent just comes across as not very intelligent.

Yes, absolutely.

JHound · 09/11/2026 19:43

JustHereForTheFood · 09/11/2026 18:21

What is your opinion on the case. I’m not saying he’s innocent but say for example this happened to someone who wasn’t famous, if it happened to us on the street of our town and we reported it 10 years later, would they say there wasn’t enough evidence? Like the recent drama with the taxi driver that had someone playing Boris Johnson’s wife - they didn’t believe the victims when there WAS evidence? I don’t know.

The taxi driver was convicted of multiple rapes.

Jimmyjumpy · 09/11/2026 19:44

What if, what if, what if.......

YouLittleWally · 09/11/2026 20:09

Unpopular opinion but I think it’s been a witch hunt.

cowxst · 09/11/2026 20:26

YouLittleWally · 09/11/2026 20:09

Unpopular opinion but I think it’s been a witch hunt.

Yeah, care to elaborate?

MickyMoonshine · 09/11/2026 20:28

YouLittleWally · 09/11/2026 20:09

Unpopular opinion but I think it’s been a witch hunt.

Why? In what way?
Do you think he’s innocent?

LuckyHazelFox · 09/11/2026 21:43

The witch hunt argument has been fabricated to compare justice for Brand to the Grooming gangs. On this occasion, I'm not even thinking about the latter. Brand is not above the law and his predatory antics have finally caught up with him. There will be quite a few male celebs bricking it at present. Fortunately, the law is getting hotter on bringing these 'men' to justice.

Lhori · 10/11/2026 06:12

YouLittleWally · 09/11/2026 20:09

Unpopular opinion but I think it’s been a witch hunt.

There is a reason that yours is an unpopular opinion.

I think there is a level of frustration from many that he was very obviously a sex predator and many people who worked in the industry knew it and yet he continued to get away with it.

I know some who worked very closely with another famous name that gets mentioned regularly on here and she told me about his behaviour years ago. A lot of money is made out of these people and that is why they get away with it for years.

I watched a documentary about Jimmy Savile and quite a few people felt that he was also subject to a witch hunt. After more and more information came out, that view seemed to fade.

tilypu · 10/11/2026 06:20

YouLittleWally · 09/11/2026 20:09

Unpopular opinion but I think it’s been a witch hunt.

Do you still think so now that Jemima Khan has spoken about her experience?

PolkaDotPorridge · 10/11/2026 06:34

You’re either a pick me girl or a man. Either way you’re defending a convicted rapist. How low your bar is. You must have permanently broken toes.

Maisymouse2 · 10/11/2026 06:41

MyDenimKoala · 09/11/2026 18:34

The woman who was (brutally) anally raped told all her friends and family at the time, and went to a sexual health clinic as she was terrified she had AIDS. You are right that historic cases are difficult, including lots more involving Russel Brand, so we understand, but in this case there was evidence.

Hiv not aids.

JasmineMac · 10/11/2026 06:46

Grimda · 09/11/2026 19:13

I think anyone who saw how Brand has acted through the years could be 95% certain we was a sexual predator without any evidence whatsoever. I’d love to hear from any women that found him remotely entertaining.. I mean he always was 100% sleazeball. Just a truly disgusting human being. How did so many women who went to his shows and bought his book block these obvious facts out of their mind?

I liked him on big brothers big mouth, I also found his stand up comedy funny. I read his books, and he came across to me as someone very troubled and, actually, very vulnerable.
I never found him physically attractive, and I couldn't fathom why so many women did.

I've never judged anyone, male or female, on being promiscuous. And whenever I read/heard him talk about that, he was making fun of himself. He had a lot of savvy, high profile friends in the industry. Lots of people were fooled by him.

PineappleOnAStick · 10/11/2026 06:49

Apotofrealcoffee · 09/11/2026 18:47

No, non recent sexual offences are prosecuted every day.

I wish people would just look into facts before posting things like this. It’s all there for you to read.

That’s what I was thinking. You don’t seem to know much about it at all. Even the basics. But you are starting a post saying‘I’m not saying he’s innocent’.

Disasterclass · 10/11/2026 06:59

This questioning as to whether he is guilty or not is ridiculous. I’m not sure whether people realise how hard it is to get rape cases into court. Most aren’t prosecuted.
FFS what does it take for women to be believed when doubt is being thrown even when there is a conviction? No wonder most women don’t report

the80sweregreat · 10/11/2026 07:07

He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last.
It’s all so depressing and sad.
Feel for his victims , they are the ones with the life sentence :(

Sausagenbacon · 10/11/2026 07:09

Jeez, this is AIBU.
At least try and have an AIBU

OverAlltheHills · 10/11/2026 07:25

Lhori · 10/11/2026 06:12

There is a reason that yours is an unpopular opinion.

I think there is a level of frustration from many that he was very obviously a sex predator and many people who worked in the industry knew it and yet he continued to get away with it.

I know some who worked very closely with another famous name that gets mentioned regularly on here and she told me about his behaviour years ago. A lot of money is made out of these people and that is why they get away with it for years.

I watched a documentary about Jimmy Savile and quite a few people felt that he was also subject to a witch hunt. After more and more information came out, that view seemed to fade.

Edited

It seems you occasionally get these hugely charismatic yet morally flawed individuals who generate huge revenue for their employers (who then become their enablers). They then became too valuable to be held accountable and therefore become almost untouchable. Hopefully the tide has turned.

Truinio · 10/11/2026 07:37

The argument that there was no physical evidence seems to be being put about by American social media commentators. Apparently he became very big in the US after his star faded here.

I don’t know if perhaps there is a different standard of evidence in the US and rape cases require physical evidence, but of course in the UK, physical evidence (eg DNA samples) are not required to secure a conviction, and rightly so.

The obsession with the lack of DNA samples is particularly perplexing - he didn’t deny that sec took place so DNA samples would
prove nothing.